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[SuburbanFarmer]

Give me one concrete example of how my liberty is threatened by Amazon before launching into your paranoid anti-capitalist conspiracies.

Not anti-capitalist by any means. Anti crony-capitalist, and anti-monopolistic, certainly.

Your liberty is dependent on your wealth. Your wealth is taken by the government and distributed both directly to ConglomoMax (“subsidies”), and to an assortment of agencies who waste it, and use the rest to make sure that ConglomoMax isn’t threatened in any way by uppity plebs like yourself (“intellectual property”, “patent extension”, “licensing”, “Tax subsidy”, “preferred financing”, bailouts, etc).

Now go dig a better ditch around your hovel, lest the Master get crass and thump you.

Liberty being dependent on "wealth" is a claim you are making with out justifying. Wealth is an incredibly abstract concept.

In our crony-capitalist system I need very few resources to have maximum liberty. Resources that I can obtain with less and less work, and that stretch further and further every decade. To that extent, I currently have all the wealth I require for liberty, irrespective of Amazon's shareholder value. In fact, it is likely that Amazon's value helps me to maximize the value of my personal wealth.

Whatever ConglomoMax is doing with their tax subsidies is increasing my convenience, access to goods, and free time to enjoy them - so I wouldn't call them wasted. How have corporate bailouts negatively impacted my liberty?

So, again, how does Bezos' wealth in any way limit my liberty?

Your liberty, well-being, nutrition, and everything else are dependent on your wealth. You'll have a hard time surviving as a hunter-gatherer in 2020, but I suppose it's possible. Whether you'd consider that a life worth living is up to you as well.

That wealth is indirectly funneled to ConglomoMax - ergo, your liberty is lessened by them.

[Martin Hash]

As a matter of fact, I do say that The Revolution would have happened even if there had been no slaves. The leaders weren’t magical; there’s nothing special about Washington or Jefferson that 1000 others couldn’t have done. If not them, more Hamilton-types would have been in charge.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Not anti-capitalist by any means. Anti crony-capitalist, and anti-monopolistic, certainly.

Your liberty is dependent on your wealth. Your wealth is taken by the government and distributed both directly to ConglomoMax (“subsidies”), and to an assortment of agencies who waste it, and use the rest to make sure that ConglomoMax isn’t threatened in any way by uppity plebs like yourself (“intellectual property”, “patent extension”, “licensing”, “Tax subsidy”, “preferred financing”, bailouts, etc).

Now go dig a better ditch around your hovel, lest the Master get crass and thump you.

Liberty being dependent on "wealth" is a claim you are making with out justifying. Wealth is an incredibly abstract concept.

In our crony-capitalist system I need very few resources to have maximum liberty. Resources that I can obtain with less and less work, and that stretch further and further every decade. To that extent, I currently have all the wealth I require for liberty, irrespective of Amazon's shareholder value. In fact, it is likely that Amazon's value helps me to maximize the value of my personal wealth.

Whatever ConglomoMax is doing with their tax subsidies is increasing my convenience, access to goods, and free time to enjoy them - so I wouldn't call them wasted. How have corporate bailouts negatively impacted my liberty?

So, again, how does Bezos' wealth in any way limit my liberty?

Your liberty, well-being, nutrition, and everything else are dependent on your wealth. You'll have a hard time surviving as a hunter-gatherer in 2020, but I suppose it's possible. Whether you'd consider that a life worth living is up to you as well.

That wealth is indirectly funneled to ConglomoMax - ergo, your liberty is lessened by them.

How does Bezos' wealth or ConglomoMax's tax subsidies bring me closer to living as a hunter-gatherer? How does paying taxes bring me closer to living as a hunter-gatherer?

Let's put this another way: if you had limitless resources, what could you do with all this extra liberty you believe this wealth would facilitate that you can't currently do with different priorities and better resource management?

[Martin Hash]

Liberty = Freedom X Opportunity

Opportunity is directly related to wealth, so concentrated wealth is like hoarding opportunity.

[Martin Hash]

My goal is most liberty to the most people. If all you measured was the total liberty, then a king would have all the liberty.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Liberty = Freedom X Opportunity

Opportunity is directly related to wealth, so concentrated wealth is like hoarding opportunity.

Opportunity is not zero-sum. Creativity, intelligence, and dedication can create opportunity ex nihilo.

I can blame god for my deficiencies in these areas, but not Jeff Bezos.

[Martin Hash]

Liberty = Freedom X Opportunity

Opportunity is directly related to wealth, so concentrated wealth is like hoarding opportunity.

Opportunity is not zero-sum. Creativity, intelligence, and dedication can create opportunity ex nihilo.

I can blame god for my deficiencies in these areas, but not Jeff Bezos.

You must not believe wealth=opportunity? Give some examples of all the opportunities you’ve so far harvested in your life that didn’t involve having money.

[Martin Hash]

Nepotism beats talent virtually every time.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Liberty being dependent on "wealth" is a claim you are making with out justifying. Wealth is an incredibly abstract concept.

In our crony-capitalist system I need very few resources to have maximum liberty. Resources that I can obtain with less and less work, and that stretch further and further every decade. To that extent, I currently have all the wealth I require for liberty, irrespective of Amazon's shareholder value. In fact, it is likely that Amazon's value helps me to maximize the value of my personal wealth.

Whatever ConglomoMax is doing with their tax subsidies is increasing my convenience, access to goods, and free time to enjoy them - so I wouldn't call them wasted. How have corporate bailouts negatively impacted my liberty?

So, again, how does Bezos' wealth in any way limit my liberty?

Your liberty, well-being, nutrition, and everything else are dependent on your wealth. You'll have a hard time surviving as a hunter-gatherer in 2020, but I suppose it's possible. Whether you'd consider that a life worth living is up to you as well.

That wealth is indirectly funneled to ConglomoMax - ergo, your liberty is lessened by them.

How does Bezos' wealth or ConglomoMax's tax subsidies bring me closer to living as a hunter-gatherer? How does paying taxes bring me closer to living as a hunter-gatherer?

Let's put this another way: if you had limitless resources, what could you do with all this extra liberty you believe this wealth would facilitate that you can't currently do with different priorities and better resource management?

I would instantly recover 40 hrs/ week of my life, for one. If 1/3rd of your existence isn’t enough, I’m not even sure where to start.

Given greater resources, I’d own a farm and produce organic, healthy food for my loved ones. Master more hobbies/crafts. Travel the world. Taste more exotic foods. Write a book of wysdom like Hashie. See my favorite sports teams and artists perform live. Maybe even demonstrate for issues that I care about.

The possibilities are literally endless. And unreachable from hoarding my remaining tokens harder.

Sure, my skill set will continue to improve, and I’ll earn more tokens for my precious time, but that is lost nonetheless. While those born with ConglomoMax stock certificates live a life of ease from my labors and lifetime.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Liberty = Freedom X Opportunity

Opportunity is directly related to wealth, so concentrated wealth is like hoarding opportunity.

Opportunity is not zero-sum. Creativity, intelligence, and dedication can create opportunity ex nihilo.

I can blame god for my deficiencies in these areas, but not Jeff Bezos.

You must not believe wealth=opportunity? Give some examples of all the opportunities you’ve so far harvested in your life that didn’t involve having money.

You need resources for opportunity. Resources take many forms other than money. A tiny amount of money married to intense effort yield more real opportunity than a lot of money and no effort. If you can't muster a tiny amount of seed money in this society, then you've likely got problems that wouldn't be solvable with any amount of money.