Seriously, no one is talking about the riots?

[The Conservative]

DONT TAZE ME BRUH

He wishes he got off with a tazing after the fact.

[SuburbanFarmer]

All that matters is the last 60 seconds. And there’s nothing to show either way. It does sound like they shot him in the back.

[Martin Hash]

It’s impossible to armchair quarterback this kind of shit but I hope police are discouraged from using deadly force unless their life is in danger. That may mean a drunk miscreant might get away occasionally.

[The Conservative]

All that matters is the last 60 seconds. And there’s nothing to show either way. It does sound like they shot him in the back.

Umm. No, it actually shows him tasering a cop in those last 60 seconds.

[The Conservative]

It’s impossible to armchair quarterback this kind of shit but I hope police are discouraged from using deadly force unless their life is in danger. That may mean a drunk miscreant might get away occasionally.

The guy used the cops own taser against him.

[Ph64]

It’s impossible to armchair quarterback this kind of shit but I hope police are discouraged from using deadly force unless their life is in danger. That may mean a drunk miscreant might get away occasionally.

The guy used the cops own taser against him.

A cop losing control of their weapon, either lethal or "less lethal", is considered a very bad thing. Would certainly lead to reprimand. Getting shot with his own taser could then lead to loss of his pistol - an even worse outcome. In such a situation they are trained to use lethal force if necessary.

Not saying it's right, but my guess is it was within policy and their training.

The worst thing you can do is try to (and succeed in this case) take a cop's weapon. Sad the guys stupidity cost him his life, but really he did it to himself.

[The Conservative]

It’s impossible to armchair quarterback this kind of shit but I hope police are discouraged from using deadly force unless their life is in danger. That may mean a drunk miscreant might get away occasionally.

The guy used the cops own taser against him.

A cop losing control of their weapon, either lethal or "less lethal", is considered a very bad thing. Would certainly lead to reprimand. Getting shot with his own taser could then lead to loss of his pistol - an even worse outcome. In such a situation they are trained to use lethal force if necessary.

Not saying it's right, but my guess is it was within policy and their training.

The worst thing you can do is try to (and succeed in this case) take a cop's weapon. Sad the guys stupidity cost him his life, but really he did it to himself.

That's the point, and he was just out of jail... he had a record as well. Ever notice that people are starting to martyr criminals?

[PartyOf5]

All that matters is the last 60 seconds. And there’s nothing to show either way. It does sound like they shot him in the back.

The last 60 seconds also includes him punching officers, stealing one of their tasers, and then firing the taser at one of the officers.

Being able to sit at a desk after the fact allows us the time to think all the options through. I wish the officer had simply continued pursuit and not shot him. They had his name, his car, and probably his ID. Even if he got away they would probably find him soon afterwards.

On the other side, the guy just totally flipped a switch from being reasonable and polite to punching 2 cops, beating them in a struggle, stealing and firing a weapon. Who knows what this guy is capable of after seeing him flip like that.

It's tragic, not racist. They were professional and courteous the whole time. Cop was reacting in real time. Maybe he deserves a suspension, maybe he deserves to be fired, but not an immediate firing without any due process.

[SuburbanFarmer]

All that matters is the last 60 seconds. And there’s nothing to show either way. It does sound like they shot him in the back.

The last 60 seconds also includes him punching officers, stealing one of their tasers, and then firing the taser at one of the officers.

Being able to sit at a desk after the fact allows us the time to think all the options through. I wish the officer had simply continued pursuit and not shot him. They had his name, his car, and probably his ID. Even if he got away they would probably find him soon afterwards.

On the other side, the guy just totally flipped a switch from being reasonable and polite to punching 2 cops, beating them in a struggle, stealing and firing a weapon. Who knows what this guy is capable of after seeing him flip like that.

It's tragic, not racist. They were professional and courteous the whole time. Cop was reacting in real time. Maybe he deserves a suspension, maybe he deserves to be fired, but not an immediate firing without any due process.

Agree on all points. I'm just saying that non-lethal force doesn't justify lethal force. And it's interesting to note the justifications given are often 'he resisted the police', as if that's a given for lethal force.

[Zlaxer]

All that matters is the last 60 seconds. And there’s nothing to show either way. It does sound like they shot him in the back.

The last 60 seconds also includes him punching officers, stealing one of their tasers, and then firing the taser at one of the officers.

Being able to sit at a desk after the fact allows us the time to think all the options through. I wish the officer had simply continued pursuit and not shot him. They had his name, his car, and probably his ID. Even if he got away they would probably find him soon afterwards.

On the other side, the guy just totally flipped a switch from being reasonable and polite to punching 2 cops, beating them in a struggle, stealing and firing a weapon. Who knows what this guy is capable of after seeing him flip like that.

It's tragic, not racist. They were professional and courteous the whole time. Cop was reacting in real time. Maybe he deserves a suspension, maybe he deserves to be fired, but not an immediate firing without any due process.

Agree on all points. I'm just saying that non-lethal force doesn't justify lethal force. And it's interesting to note the justifications given are often 'he resisted the police', as if that's a given for lethal force.

All I’m saying is that it’s not a clear cut case of white cops out to kill a black man minding his own business - it’s not like they went out and said I need to shoot me a darkie tonight - which is how it’s being portrayed. I don’t think race played an issue here and that a white dude would have been shot as well if he had done the same. The problem (if the cops were in the wrong) is bad cops (not racist cops) - this is not like the killing of Floyd. Ironically, the dude killed at Wendy’s seemed like and OK dude (except for attacking a cop) - unlike floyd who held a gun to a pregnant women’s stomach while his cohorts ransacked her apartment. But whatevrz - - makes for good opportunity for marxists left to keep on keeping on.