Does Obama Get Indicted?

[pineapplemike]

I don't have all the information I need to have much of an opinion about any of those pictures off the top of my head, but, in principle, I am exactly as concerned about all of them as I am about potential Russian influence into American democracy.

This, however, is a discussion about Flynn, #Obamagate, and the job of our executive branch of government. I believe our CiC and his office are duty-bound to hunt down every possible perversion of our republic.

implying the FBI and CIC act in the interests of hunting down perversions of our republic

i often think of this smitty quote from way back in july of 2017 during times like this

If you even buy, never mind propagate the assertion, that the FBI is a politically agnostic disinterested party which is just doing their jobs here, I'd say you're either being disengenous, or you're just a total moron.

very informative video from glenn greenwald on the michael flynn investigation, skip to 20m45s to get some context on the history between michael flynn and barack obama

or click this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB26jj0jrjc&t=20m45s

the intercept is gay

glenn greenwald is the only gay thing i see from the intercept because i don't look at the intercept except to look at glenn greenwald

[Haumana]

@martyrmade https://mobile.twitter.com/martyrmade
We should all be able to agree that an incumbent President using the FBI, CIA, and foreign intel to spy on an opposition party is a huge deal. Maybe it's necessary, but it had better be good. Letting it become normalized is nothing less than the end of our system of government.

Think about it. We now know that the officials on TV selling the collusion story were saying behind closed doors that they had no evidence of it. We know they lied on FISA applications to spy on the Trump campaign. We know everyone involved was fired by an Obama-appointed IG.

We know the FBI invented a pretext to set up Flynn. We know that the FBI knew beyond doubt the dossier was bunk in early January 2017. We know the DNC paid a foreign spy to get information on Trump from Russian officials. We know NSA surveillance was used for political purposes.

We now know that Mueller knew there was no collusion the day he began his investigation because he brought in the very people who'd been investigating it for a year, and the Mueller probe was an excuse to dig up unrelated dirt on Trump (remarkably they found nothing).

We know that the very people - Schiff, Nadler, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, etc - who went on TV and told you there was evidence of collusion were telling Congress behind closed doors that they'd seen no evidence of it. If I had been taken in by this, I would be furious.

We know that the very people who were saying there was no evidence of collusion behind closed doors were using it to thwart attempts to improve relations with Russia, find a solution to the Syria crisis, or work toward peace in Ukraine.

We now know that the all-consuming story of the last three years was based entirely on lies, and the people telling the lies knew they were lies. The people who knowingly lied were fired (by Obama-appointed officials), but were rewarded with million-dollar book & cable TV deals.

The latest Tweets from MartyrMade (@martyrmade). The pious son of demons

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

implying the FBI and CIC act in the interests of hunting down perversions of our republic

It is their job, after all. I am not sure I am 'implying' anything, but I am able to accept that each of these institutions are maintained by fallible human beings. This is why we have a system of government that appreciates oversight. Eg, the system of Inspector Generals in the executive office, established by the senate to provide executive oversight. The same Inspector Generals being fired without cause.

If you even buy, never mind propagate the assertion, that the FBI is a politically agnostic disinterested party which is just doing their jobs here, I'd say you're either being disengenous, or you're just a total moron.

Obviously they aren't disinterested. They have a political mandate to enforce United States law. You and Smitty may believe Ivan is more reliable than the FBI - morons come in all colors, I guess.

glenn greenwald is the only gay thing i see from the intercept because i don't look at the intercept except to look at glenn greenwald

Yeah. Greenwald is the shitiest part of a shitty, muckraking rag. He branded and sold himself by allying with professional leakers. You are all pissy about leaks, you should understand that Glenn Greenwald is a traitorous hack.

Also, quit fisking my comments. It makes it a pain in the ass to talk. I can remember what I just wrote, so just formulate your ideas into a coherent paragraph, and I will do my best to respond in good faith.

[pineapplemike]

professional leakers are the leakers that face no consequences, see: FBI leadership

the leakers greenwald associates with are targeted by FBI leadership, see: snowden

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Professional leakers make a profitable brand of their treachery, under the protection of US law (defended by the FBI): see Greenwald.

But, at least we agree on the value of transparency, and the high bar for prosecuting whistle-blowers.

[pineapplemike]

i'd be fine seeing comey brennan and clapper flee the country and be forced to seek asylum in russia

in fact that's now what i hope happens



idk what fisking your comments means but stop fisking mine first

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

i'd be fine seeing comey brennan and clapper flee the country and be forced to seek asylum in russia

in fact that's now what i hope happens



idk what fisking your comments means but stop fisking mine first

I didn't know what fisking was either, until Smitty called me out for doing it. To channel a QAnon devote, research it for yourself.

As to Comey, Brennan, and Clapper - functionaries and bureaucrats gonna functionary and bureaucrat.

[pineapplemike]

dude im going to fisk the shit out of you

[Martin Hash]

dude im going to fisk the shit out of you

Dude, stop watching so much porn.

[pineapplemike]

dude im going to fisk the shit out of you

Dude, stop watching so much porn.

i have an online degree in fisking from pornhub dot com, so fisk off doc