Coronavirus thread

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon May 11, 2020 9:47 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:33 am

Which orifice did you pull ''100%'' from? Sounds like a strawman to me



From the WHO guidelines for reopening discussion:
2. Health systems are able to "detect, test, isolate and treat every case and trace every contact"
If that isn't 100% testing and tracing, what is it?

It is almost like the actual victory conditions are vague and unobtainable.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon May 11, 2020 9:48 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 5:55 am
Has anyone thought that the "Green New Deal" and COVID-19 quarantine are the same things?
It's interesting that as so much energy has been transferred from eco terrorism to viral terrorism. Whatever the msms are pushing it's always pyschological warfare.

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by DBTrek » Mon May 11, 2020 9:55 am

It's beginning to look like the "isolation until 100% contact tracing or vaccine" lynch mob members are now trying to distance themselves from their previous position.
:think:

They're hoping we don't notice tho ... which is why they post five-page rants about how anyone disagreeing with them wants mandatory doorknob licking at reopened businesses.

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 11, 2020 10:19 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:48 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 5:55 am
Has anyone thought that the "Green New Deal" and COVID-19 quarantine are the same things?
It's interesting that as so much energy has been transferred from eco terrorism to viral terrorism. Whatever the msms are pushing it's always pyschological warfare.
That is part of it, but look at what the Green New Deal waned to do? Then look at what has happened... and tell me if they almost don't coincide with each other.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by DBTrek » Mon May 11, 2020 10:23 am

The Green New Deal wanted to wipe out senior citizen's homes?
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Xenophon » Mon May 11, 2020 10:34 am

DBTrek wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:23 am
The Green New Deal wanted to wipe out senior citizen's homes?
I mean, in a way. You heard the Green New Dealers screeching about boomers, after all.

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by The Conservative » Mon May 11, 2020 10:56 am

DBTrek wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:23 am
The Green New Deal wanted to wipe out senior citizen's homes?
Reduction of air-flights, reduction of driving... being more local...

As for wiping out the elderly, that was the fault of NY and others, that after the people were infected and released, they were put back into the nursing homes in where it spread like a fire in a paper factory.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Montegriffo » Mon May 11, 2020 11:57 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:47 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:33 am

Which orifice did you pull ''100%'' from? Sounds like a strawman to me



From the WHO guidelines for reopening discussion:
2. Health systems are able to "detect, test, isolate and treat every case and trace every contact"
If that isn't 100% testing and tracing, what is it?

It is almost like the actual victory conditions are vague and unobtainable.
OK, that's poorly worded. Every case is impossible to achieve. The UK guideline is more realistic.
Operational challenges including testing and PPE are in hand, with supply able to meet future demand.
Those countries which managed to test and trace large numbers such as Germany and South Korea managed to do a far better job of limiting deaths and controlling the spread and are now in a position to open up that the rest of us can only dream of. So ''unobtainable'' doesn't seem to apply to them. If countries insist on reopening before the capacity to test is adequate and the numbers of infections are still too high the job of testing and tracing sufficient people really will be unobtainable. Fill the shopping malls, bars and theatres with people too soon and we're just going to be back to square one.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Xenophon » Mon May 11, 2020 12:14 pm

America is Saved!

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-con ... xt?r=2&s=1

Sponsored by Rev. Bobby Rush of Illinois 1st district, we have H.R.6666 - COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act.
In General.—The Secretary of Health and Human Services, acting through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, may award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID–19, to trace and monitor the contacts of infected individuals, and to support the quarantine of such contacts, through—

(1) mobile health units; and

(2) as necessary, testing individuals and providing individuals with services related to testing and quarantine at their residences.
My favorite part:
(g) Authorization Of Appropriations.—To carry out this section, there are authorized to be appropriated—

(1) $100,000,000,000 for fiscal year 2020; and

(2) such sums as may be necessary for each of fiscal year 2021 and any subsequent fiscal year during which the emergency period continues.

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon May 11, 2020 12:22 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 11:57 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:47 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 9:33 am

Which orifice did you pull ''100%'' from? Sounds like a strawman to me



From the WHO guidelines for reopening discussion:
2. Health systems are able to "detect, test, isolate and treat every case and trace every contact"
If that isn't 100% testing and tracing, what is it?

It is almost like the actual victory conditions are vague and unobtainable.
OK, that's poorly worded. Every case is impossible to achieve. The UK guideline is more realistic.
Operational challenges including testing and PPE are in hand, with supply able to meet future demand.
Those countries which managed to test and trace large numbers such as Germany and South Korea managed to do a far better job of limiting deaths and controlling the spread and are now in a position to open up that the rest of us can only dream of. So ''unobtainable'' doesn't seem to apply to them. If countries insist on reopening before the capacity to test is adequate and the numbers of infections are still too high the job of testing and tracing sufficient people really will be unobtainable. Fill the shopping malls, bars and theatres with people too soon and we're just going to be back to square one.
Fine. We promise to test and trace as much as we can.

In the meantime, we have all the tools and information we need to allow the vast majority take responsibility for their own health.

Hand soap, and personal space > test and trace
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