Coronavirus thread

[DBTrek]

No one else knows of any Constitutional authority to require citizens to wear masks either, which is why we just get dumb-dumb proclamations of "LOL! Yes you can!"


This idiot farm is a time sink with diminishing returns for sure.

[Speaker to Animals]

It would be a surprise to the people who wrote the Constitution who themselves implemented several quarantines, and especially to the Americans in 1918 who responded to the Spanish Flu epidemic in the exact same way.

You fucking clown.

[DBTrek]

Quarantines aren't masks.
Herpaderpderp

Mental disability is what you should be drawing bro.

[Speaker to Animals]

Quarantines aren't masks.
Herpaderpderp

Mental disability is what you should be drawing bro.

The police from 1918 came. They said they want to take back your Ag grant history degree.

[DBTrek]

Quarantines aren't masks.
Herpaderpderp

Mental disability is what you should be drawing bro.

The police from 1918 came. They said they want to take back your Ag grant history degree.

Constitutional Authority (Federal power) vs the City of San Francisco (city council)

Can you spot the difference?
If not, your citizenship should probably be revoked long before my history degree.

Does anyone else know what the Constitution says about enumerating Federal powers, and with what entity the non-enumerated powers lay?

Are people on this forum still behind the eight ball on all that?
Lordy.

[Speaker to Animals]

Quarantines aren't masks.
Herpaderpderp

Mental disability is what you should be drawing bro.

The police from 1918 came. They said they want to take back your Ag grant history degree.

Constitutional Authority (Federal power) vs the City of San Francisco (city council)

Can you spot the difference?
If not, your citizenship should probably be revoked long before my history degree.

Does anyone else know what the Constitution says about enumerating Federal powers, and with what entity the non-enumerated powers lay?

Are people on this forum still behind the eight ball on all that?
Lordy.

Hold up. You were not arguing about the Constiutional authority of the federal government to impose masks but the Constitutional authority of the states to do it. Don't try to weasel out of this. Nobody is asking for the federal government to control how states impose social isolation measures here.

Fucking weasel.

[DBTrek]

Quick refresher course for those Americans who don't know much about America:

List of enumerated powers of the federal constitution
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

— Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution

[DBTrek]

Hold up. You were not arguing about the Constiutional authority of the federal government to impose masks but the Constitutional authority of the states to do it. Don't try to weasel out of this. Nobody is asking for the federal government to control how states impose social isolation measures here.

Fucking weasel.

Mental disability bro. Apply now, you've earned it.

It's America. [the nation]
You can't force people to wear anything.

Business owners can require their employees to wear them.
Maybe businesses can require customers to wear them . . . maybe.
But the US government [singular, national] certainly can't command all Americans [national, all inclusive] to wear masks with any Constitutional authority I'm aware of.

[Speaker to Animals]

Hold up. You were not arguing about the Constiutional authority of the federal government to impose masks but the Constitutional authority of the states to do it. Don't try to weasel out of this. Nobody is asking for the federal government to control how states impose social isolation measures here.

Fucking weasel.

Mental disability bro. Apply now, you've earned it.

It's America. [the nation]
You can't force people to wear anything.

Business owners can require their employees to wear them.
Maybe businesses can require customers to wear them . . . maybe.
But the US government [singular, national] certainly can't command all Americans [national, all inclusive] to wear masks with any Constitutional authority I'm aware of.

So you admit -- in point of fact -- states CAN and HAVE forced people to wear masks. Great. Now we can move past the "you can't force Americans to wear masks" false statement.

[DBTrek]

So you admit -- in point of fact -- states CAN and HAVE forced people to wear masks. Great. Now we can move past the "you can't force Americans to wear masks" false statement.

San Francisco isn't a state. Jeez this is getting tedious.

States might be able to, pending constitutional challenges to their authority.
Are all fifty states going to try to push state-wide mandatory mask legislation simultaneously?
Nope.
Can States require people to wear gear that they do not provide?
Never heard of it happening. But they could try.