I don't like Trump

[Martin Hash]

If you’re spinning up to vote for a demented person, you have TDS.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

corporate media shouldn't take him out of context at every possible moment in the first place, then conservative outlets wouldn't have a fair point by criticizing corporate media

trump shouldn't be so flippant with his language in the first place, but then again he may not have won the presidency if he was less flippant

i honestly wonder if trump has said more stupid things than the stupid things misattributed to him by the press

Trump frequently fails to provide any context, or recontextualizes on the fly.

Take this latest bit Trumpian doggerel: NR claims the context was a hypothetical question to doctors (which, even if true, is a stunningly stupid hypothetical question), but the administration was telling Fox that Trump was being sarcastic.

How is the corporate media supposed to report on Trump in context when Trump relies on his supporters to provide whatever context is needed?

i agree, trump saying that he was being sarcastic was in my opinion worse than simply riffing about ideas on stage

the problem is that this incident doesn't exist in the vacuum. "what is the media supposed to do?" they're supposed to report accurately and call him out. what they're not supposed to do is suggest he is responsible for people eating fish tank cleaner or suggest he called nazis very fine people

fuck them

Which brings us back to the onus of understanding. My impulse is to say Trump ought to be unambiguous and clear in his statements, but he is incapable or unwilling to communicate in an unambiguous and clear way.

[pineapplemike]

and to refocus on marty's point, atleast he is less ambiguous and clearer with his statements than his opponent

as for me personally i'll be voting third party, if at all

[SuburbanFarmer]

and to refocus on marty's point, atleast he is less ambiguous and clearer with his statements than his opponent

as for me personally i'll be voting third party, if at all

Same, as always.
I really only show up to vote challenger on all races, and no to taxes.

[Ex-California]

and to refocus on marty's point, atleast he is less ambiguous and clearer with his statements than his opponent

as for me personally i'll be voting third party, if at all

That’s about the same as my method

Although I write myself in all the time too
Same, as always.
I really only show up to vote challenger on all races, and no to taxes.

[PartyOf5]

Which brings us back to the onus of understanding. My impulse is to say Trump ought to be unambiguous and clear in his statements, but he is incapable or unwilling to communicate in an unambiguous and clear way.

He was clear A reporter asked if Trump meant people should be doing things like this and he said no, of course not. Clear and unambiguous. But the MSM left that part out.

Fuck those with TDS. I'm done explaining things to them. At this point it's not ignorance or being uniformed, it's intentionally ignoring facts. They already know what answer they want, it's just a matter of how much truth to leave out and how many lies to fill in the holes in order for them to get that answer.

Russia, Russia, Russia - Fail.
Impeachment - Fail.
Stormy Daniels - Fail.
Cofeve - Fail.
Drink fish tank cleaner - Fail.
Inject yourself with Lysol - Fail.

Every single day for the last 3 1/2 years the media and every TDS zombie has been feeding us these and 1,000 other failed attempts t take him down. They once called hi unfit to be POTUS because they said he had dementia. Those same people are now propping up a candidate with actual, visible dementia and saying he is the best choice for POTUS.

It's over. No more wasting time explaining why your latest TDS fantasy is nothing more than that....a fantasy. Continue to shriek about him through the summer. I can't wait until November and he's voted in for another 4 years. Then you will have all that time to hone your TDS to even higher levels.

[Martin Hash]

TDS, in fact the whole Anti-Trump narrative, is a perfect example of how well propaganda works. Smart people are indoctrinated so thoroughly that they don’t recognize the cognitive dissonance. I think HM is one of the smartest guys on this forum but he got sucked in. Monte is smart but he was biased to begin with so it’s not so apparent. Farmer needs to work out some personal issues so I don’t put him in the same camp.

My theory is that it’s the Chinese. They own the MSM through shell companies, they finance Hollywood, they give endowments to universities, and the provide the Venture Capital for Tech. This is a predictable result of Capitalism combined with “Free” Trade.

[Speaker to Animals]

Biden has not yet killed 50 thousand plus Americans with his incompetence, so he at least has that going for him. Not that I could vote for the bastard. The only way I can hold Trump accountable for his failure and total lack of accountability is to not vote for him.

[Martin Hash]

Biden has not yet killed 50 thousand plus Americans with his incompetence, so he at least has that going for him. Not that I could vote for the bastard. The only way I can hold Trump accountable for his failure and total lack of accountability is to not vote for him.

Stand outside the political maelstrom and shout invective all you want; it’s essentially cowardliness, a desire not to be held accountable for your own actions. But you’re not a Liberty person so I don’t expect you to understand personal responsibility.

Monte isn’t a Liberty person either, but HM is and should know better.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Biden has not yet killed 50 thousand plus Americans with his incompetence, so he at least has that going for him. Not that I could vote for the bastard. The only way I can hold Trump accountable for his failure and total lack of accountability is to not vote for him.

Stand outside the political maelstrom and shout invective all you want; it’s essentially cowardliness, a desire not to be held accountable for your own actions. But you’re not a Liberty person so I don’t expect you to understand personal responsibility.

Monte isn’t a Liberty person either, but HM is and should know better.

What’s the alternative? Run for president?