I don't like Trump

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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by DBTrek » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:15 am

Without googling I’ve heard some virus RNA breaks down in sunlight due to UV radiation, so what StA says is making sense to me. Have we heard wrong?
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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:16 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:11 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:10 am
To be fair..

Maybe it would not be a bad idea to suspend UV lights in covid ICU wards.
Without Googling, I want you to explain to me what kills viruses.
Okay, I will try.. Not a doctor so I am not sure if this is totally accurate..

The antibody latches on to the virus making it impossible for the virus to enter into any more cells to hijack them for replication, and somehow there are t-cells that kill infected cells. That's about all I know off hand.

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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:20 am

Here is an AJ article about the research:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/ ... 53466.html

High humidity reduces half life to six hours as well.

Maybe we just need to install humidifiers in grocery stores, pull off the light covers, and use something closer to those full UV bulbs that were popular for growing plants prior to LEDs.

That really is not a super expensive mitigation measure at all. It's not cheap either, but not impractical. If you can reduce spread by even half, that should have a big effect, since these days most spreading is going on in places like grocery stores.

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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by C-Mag » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:23 am

UV light kills viruses in less than an hour.

Looked at getting set up for my decon room. But couldn't find the size I wanted affordable.

Use a small one in the entry bath where everyone washes up.
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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:25 am

Like what did those shitty Rainforest Cafe restaurants use to make the inside of the store feel humid and misty? Does that scale up to the size of a grocery store or even a Super Walmart?

The UV bulbs we used to make even ten years ago. I am not sure if those were replaced by LED grow lights since then, however.

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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by C-Mag » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:27 am

We also use humidifiers with colloidal silver.

Good enough to treat medical implants and sterilizing medical instruments, good enough for me
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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:29 am

Right here:

https://www.smartfog.com/humidifier-products.html

All that equipment is made in the USA. No trade problems.


Germicidal light bulbs:

https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/ultr ... ermicidal/


Instead of fucking around with gibs, spend money on manufacturing that stuff and deploying it to every grocery and department store in the country.


It is also possible to just run water through little pipes that create mist. That would instantly ramp up humidity around the shopping cart areas. Maybe add a bit of lysol in the water and suspend that above the carts.
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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by DBTrek » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:29 am

Either our google-less knowledge is strong Kung fu, or MH left the convo for morning happy hour.
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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:32 am

Looks like lots of Googling to me.
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Re: I don't like Trump

Post by C-Mag » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:32 am

There's not enough discussion along this line.

Putting all our hopes on a vaccine is stupid. And WTF do we do from now till then ?

Gotta come up with good practices and procedures that protect people and allow the country to keep moving.
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