W.H.O. (are you), WHO WHO

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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:17 pm

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Post by Xenophon » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:19 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:13 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:59 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:49 am


I feel the same about atoms.
This table I'm sitting at is supposed to be made of atoms but I can't see them. I have no proof this table exists at all, or anything else.
I was bored one night and couldn't sleep so I started a long chain of wikipedia links that led me to string theory and all this other weird stuff. Tbh it made me realise that I am kind of a dumbshit lol. I am of the opinion that human beings are not evolved or designed or whatever to understand how the universe works. Its beyond our comprehension. I have never read a convinving account of how we evolved to be conscious. Other animals are conscious too, but they don't have religion art etc afaik. How did this come about? It really is like a fairy tale.

I remember one time in college I was shrooming with some friends and this guy I was talking to just went off on this long tangent similar to mine about existence, reality and all that stuff and finally someone else in the group told him to shut up. He was making us all anxious and sad by bringing that stuff up at the moment lol. It was pretty damn funny looking back.
Our inability to comprehend is why mankind has to invent gods.
It's like Smitty's quote about never getting in the universe's panties that someone had as their sig.
Some things are better just left to geniuses in electric wheelchairs to think about while we watch reality TV programs and sportsball on the box.
Interesting that we can't comprehend reality, while also saying with absolute confidence that there aren't gods.

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Post by DBTrek » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:22 pm

The idea that "we need god because..." kinda overlooks the basic fundamental concept of God.
The existence of God, conceptually or in reality, relies 0% upon human need.
That whole "I AM" thing?
Eh, forget it. You heathens never entered a Church in your lives.
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Post by heydaralon » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:22 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:05 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:59 am

I was bored one night and couldn't sleep so I started a long chain of wikipedia links that led me to string theory and all this other weird stuff. Tbh it made me realise that I am kind of a dumbshit lol. I am of the opinion that human beings are not evolved or designed or whatever to understand how the universe works. Its beyond our comprehension. I have never read a convinving account of how we evolved to be conscious. Other animals are conscious too, but they don't have religion art etc afaik. How did this come about? It really is like a fairy tale.
That's why I'm perpetually amused by religion-mockers who are like "You believe some fairy tale god made everything? Damn you're a superstitious rube. Go visit a witch doctor with your medical ills, you savage. Hahahahah! Everyone knows that first there was nothing at all, and then it exploded into everything!"
:lol:

Like . . . if you're gonna mock people for believing ridiculous shit, you need to come to the table with some less-ridiculous shit.
Yeah.

I haven't been to church in many many years, but the Bible has some pretty good takes on a lot of stuff.


Consider Adam and Eve. They ate the fruit, and then they were no longer in the Garden of Eden. They left mentally long before God physically kicked them out.

Its like a metaphor for technology. We gain knowledge, the same way Eve ate the apple. Once we know something, we cannot return to the previous state. The knowledge and the tech opens a door which changes everything. I'm pretty sure Adam and Even wore animal skins after they knew they were naked. So they killed animals and wore theirs skins to try and return to the state of innocence. But there is no going back. God knew it, and told them so. Any attempts to return to the state of ignorance just lead to bloodshed.

Idk I'm doing a very bad job explaining this and I'm sorry but a lot of times I see this stuff and think, "How could someone from 4000 years ago be this prescient and have such a good understanding of human nature millenia later?" Its crazy.

I like the Old Testament more than the New Testament in a lot of ways. The stories in it are incredible. I've always liked the OT more, even when I was a little kid.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:22 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:13 pm

It's like Smitty's quote about never getting in the universe's panties that someone had as their sig.
I was wrong

I take it back

Deus ex machina
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Post by Xenophon » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:24 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:22 pm
The idea that "we need god because..." kinda overlooks the basic fundamental concept of God.
The existence of God, conceptually or in reality, relies 0% upon human need.
That whole "I AM" thing?
Eh, forget it. You heathens never entered a Church in your lives.
:lol:
That's really only the Judeo-Christian God. Pagan gods required sacrifices for their sustenance.

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Post by Montegriffo » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:26 pm

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:19 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:13 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:59 am


I was bored one night and couldn't sleep so I started a long chain of wikipedia links that led me to string theory and all this other weird stuff. Tbh it made me realise that I am kind of a dumbshit lol. I am of the opinion that human beings are not evolved or designed or whatever to understand how the universe works. Its beyond our comprehension. I have never read a convinving account of how we evolved to be conscious. Other animals are conscious too, but they don't have religion art etc afaik. How did this come about? It really is like a fairy tale.

I remember one time in college I was shrooming with some friends and this guy I was talking to just went off on this long tangent similar to mine about existence, reality and all that stuff and finally someone else in the group told him to shut up. He was making us all anxious and sad by bringing that stuff up at the moment lol. It was pretty damn funny looking back.
Our inability to comprehend is why mankind has to invent gods.
It's like Smitty's quote about never getting in the universe's panties that someone had as their sig.
Some things are better just left to geniuses in electric wheelchairs to think about while we watch reality TV programs and sportsball on the box.
Interesting that we can't comprehend reality, while also saying with absolute confidence that there aren't gods.
I never said there are no gods, just that they are an invention of mankind. Just like the big bang theory or relativity.
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Post by Xenophon » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:26 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:22 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:05 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:59 am

I was bored one night and couldn't sleep so I started a long chain of wikipedia links that led me to string theory and all this other weird stuff. Tbh it made me realise that I am kind of a dumbshit lol. I am of the opinion that human beings are not evolved or designed or whatever to understand how the universe works. Its beyond our comprehension. I have never read a convinving account of how we evolved to be conscious. Other animals are conscious too, but they don't have religion art etc afaik. How did this come about? It really is like a fairy tale.
That's why I'm perpetually amused by religion-mockers who are like "You believe some fairy tale god made everything? Damn you're a superstitious rube. Go visit a witch doctor with your medical ills, you savage. Hahahahah! Everyone knows that first there was nothing at all, and then it exploded into everything!"
:lol:

Like . . . if you're gonna mock people for believing ridiculous shit, you need to come to the table with some less-ridiculous shit.
Yeah.

I haven't been to church in many many years, but the Bible has some pretty good takes on a lot of stuff.


Consider Adam and Eve. They ate the fruit, and then they were no longer in the Garden of Eden. They left mentally long before God physically kicked them out.

Its like a metaphor for technology. We gain knowledge, the same way Eve ate the apple. Once we know something, we cannot return to the previous state. The knowledge and the tech opens a door which changes everything. I'm pretty sure Adam and Even wore animal skins after they knew they were naked. So they killed animals and wore theirs skins to try and return to the state of innocence. But there is no going back. God knew it, and told them so. Any attempts to return to the state of ignorance just lead to bloodshed.

Idk I'm doing a very bad job explaining this and I'm sorry but a lot of times I see this stuff and think, "How could someone from 4000 years ago be this prescient and have such a good understanding of human nature millenia later?" Its crazy.

I like the Old Testament more than the New Testament in a lot of ways. The stories in it are incredible. I've always liked the OT more, even when I was a little kid.
God actually provided them with the skins as a show of His mercy, that even as they were disobedient, He was willing to provide for them. They hid their nakedness immediately after eating the fruit because they now had shame as a result of their disobedient act.
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Post by StCapps » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:26 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:17 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:13 pm
Gangsta Ass Smitty FTW
Monte says "chin up" ?

Your chin snaps up : pay attention

then you are wide awake

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:22 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:13 pm

It's like Smitty's quote about never getting in the universe's panties that someone had as their sig.
I was wrong

I take it back

Deus ex machina
Break it down like shotgun
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:27 pm

Xenophon wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:24 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:22 pm
The idea that "we need god because..." kinda overlooks the basic fundamental concept of God.
The existence of God, conceptually or in reality, relies 0% upon human need.
That whole "I AM" thing?
Eh, forget it. You heathens never entered a Church in your lives.
:lol:
That's really only the Judeo-Christian God. Pagan gods required sacrifices for their sustenance.
He is still the hand that takes, sacrifice is his nature
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