Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:10 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
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C-Mag wrote:
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Yeah, experts change their stance with better information. 2.2 mil was a worst case scenario based on information at the time. With better information, and careful application of preventative measures, the number comes down. Sounds like a relative win.
Negative. The 2.2 Million deaths included preventative measures like social distancing.


LOL. No it didn't. Am I the only one who read the paper??

It was literally the upper end estimate if the United States did nothing at all.
You haven't read anything since apparently, including the source you cite, who have revised their model with more up to date data and evidence and no longer agree with their previous estimates

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by C-Mag » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:11 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:08 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:07 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:00 pm


Yeah, experts change their stance with better information. 2.2 mil was a worst case scenario based on information at the time. With better information, and careful application of preventative measures, the number comes down. Sounds like a relative win.
Negative. The 2.2 Million deaths included preventative measures like social distancing.


LOL. No it didn't. Am I the only one who read the paper??

It was literally the upper end estimate if the United States did nothing at all.
Uh, they are saying that now, but when that number came out I believe it was with controls. I'll check and get back to you.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:15 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:11 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:08 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:07 pm


Negative. The 2.2 Million deaths included preventative measures like social distancing.


LOL. No it didn't. Am I the only one who read the paper??

It was literally the upper end estimate if the United States did nothing at all.
Uh, they are saying that now, but when that number came out I believe it was with controls. I'll check and get back to you.
Uh.. no.

I read the paper the day it came out. It was always 2.2 million as the upper estimate if the United States did nothing and something like 400k if the UK did nothing.

The paper goes on to note that you can't just lock down and then open shit up without a vaccine as well. There are two waves and all we have done, if we are going to "save the economy" before we get a vaccine, is delayed the fatalities.

We are in a shitty situation. Nobody is going to sacrifice 2.2 million lives for these fucking markets.

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:15 pm

The paper does not include the cost of liberty. Sanctimony doesn’t recognize that liberty has a value greater than life.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:16 pm

And props to our English cousins across the pond for looking out for us on that one. That paper saved us a lot of problems.

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:16 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:15 pm
The paper does not include the cost of liberty. Sanctimony doesn’t recognize that liberty has a value greater than life.
"Liberty" is not a koolaide death cult. LOL

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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:17 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:16 pm
And props to our English cousins across the pond for looking out for us on that one. That paper saved us a lot of problems.
Imperial College revised their estimates, they don't agree with their previous estimates, you're a moron for citing them and not knowing that
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:17 pm

This argument about personal agency is the defining political battle of our time. Theists & Marxists vs. Jeffersonians.
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:18 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:16 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:15 pm
The paper does not include the cost of liberty. Sanctimony doesn’t recognize that liberty has a value greater than life.
"Liberty" is not a koolaide death cult. LOL
“Give me liberty or give me death.”
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Re: Common Sense 319 – A Recipe for Caesar

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:19 pm

Just goes to show how StA is perpetually arguing in bad faith, this Imperial College cherry picking old out of date data to try justify his bullshit plan of action
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