SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:41 pm

Just let him go.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:44 pm

Trump is crying about his jewish stock market.

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Post by Montegriffo » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:45 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:12 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:05 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:56 pm
Too early to tell right now, but I'm seeing a 2% fatality rate of Bat Aids.

Time for some basic math, Bernie supporters can just skip this part.
7.8 Billion people on this blue marble X 2% = 156 Million deaths globally.
750 Million people in Europe X 2% = 15 Million deaths in Europe
330 Million people in the US X 2% = 6.6 Million deaths in the US

Black Death 75 Million deaths (min)
Spanish Flu 50 Million deaths (approx.)

It's entirely possible, and likely that 1st world nations will have a much lower death rate than 3rd world shitholes.
So you are just going to assume that every single person on the planet is going to catch this virus, are you?
That's some seriously faulty maths you have there.
50,000,000 people have been quarantined in China, do you really think they could hide 2% (1 million) of that many people dying?

The virologists quoted in the media predict between 60-80% of the global population will be infected. The global population is 7.7 billion people (with a huge elderly population due to the demographic winter). That means, if they are right, between 4.6 and 6.1 billion people will be infected in the coming 1-2 years. At a very modest 2% mortality rate (the mortality rate based on outcomes is closer to 10% right now, though it changes each day), you are looking at between 92 million and 122 million dead.

If it is the more likely number that is around 10% (after the health care systems are swamped), then you are talking about 400-600 million dead.

With the caveat that, in the hail Mary case of developing a working vaccine, we could escape most of that. But it should be noted that this is similar to SARS in DNA makeup and the SARS vaccine kills patients, so it was abandoned years ago.

Without a vaccine, the only way to stop the pandemic is to reduce the R0 value below 1.0 through isolation. It's not like you get it once and that's it. You keep getting it and the second time is far more lethal.
What virologists are saying 60 - 80% of the world's population is going to catch this?
Take the Diamond Princess, there were over 3700 people on board in confined conditions and only about 650 cases and only 4 deaths.
A troopship in 1918 carrying a similar amount (around 3000) of healthy troops across the Atlantic had over 200 deaths from Spanish flu by the time it had crossed.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:47 pm

LOL

I dunno, I feel like I'm far from pushing the panic button. I think some common sense precautions are in order and there is already an economic impact. I just think there are an awful lot of unknowns out there right now.

It could be that Bat Aids is more like Cholera, where good habits and precautions can avoid it. Don't know. But I'm not gonna bet on it be nothing. I'd rather fill the larder, and eat off it for the next year and be wrong.
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Post by Xenophon » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:49 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:47 pm
LOL

I dunno, I feel like I'm far from pushing the panic button. I think some common sense precautions are in order and there is already an economic impact. I just think there are an awful lot of unknowns out there right now.

It could be that Bat Aids is more like Cholera, where good habits and precautions can avoid it. Don't know. But I'm not gonna bet on it be nothing. I'd rather fill the larder, and eat off it for the next year and be wrong.
I think I'll start calling it Bat Aids. I get a chuckle every time I read it.

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Post by heydaralon » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:49 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:47 pm
LOL

I dunno, I feel like I'm far from pushing the panic button. I think some common sense precautions are in order and there is already an economic impact. I just think there are an awful lot of unknowns out there right now.

It could be that Bat Aids is more like Cholera, where good habits and precautions can avoid it. Don't know. But I'm not gonna bet on it be nothing. I'd rather fill the larder, and eat off it for the next year and be wrong.
You don't understand man!

If you are 86 and have pancreatic cancer, this coronavirus could be a death sentence. I can't put into words how scared we all are. We live within 12 timezones of something that can kill stage 4 cancer patients! Its scary to think about. I just hope I'm not in my 80's when I catch it otherwise, there is a 35% chance it could kill me.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:50 pm

It is so early in this thing, and there are so many different things said about it, we can't say it's just the flu and we can't say it's Black Death II.

China has said that the incubation period can be 27 days. Multiple reports of people who have been cured, show positive later. Who knows. I'm not betting on this being nothing.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:51 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:49 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:47 pm
LOL

I dunno, I feel like I'm far from pushing the panic button. I think some common sense precautions are in order and there is already an economic impact. I just think there are an awful lot of unknowns out there right now.

It could be that Bat Aids is more like Cholera, where good habits and precautions can avoid it. Don't know. But I'm not gonna bet on it be nothing. I'd rather fill the larder, and eat off it for the next year and be wrong.
You don't understand man!

If you are 86 and have pancreatic cancer, this coronavirus could be a death sentence. I can't put into words how scared we all are. We live within 12 timezones of something that can kill stage 4 cancer patients! Its scary to think about. I just hope I'm not in my 80's when I catch it otherwise, there is a 35% chance it could kill me.
In the end, it may be known as Boomerpox.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:52 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:47 pm
LOL

I dunno, I feel like I'm far from pushing the panic button. I think some common sense precautions are in order and there is already an economic impact. I just think there are an awful lot of unknowns out there right now.

It could be that Bat Aids is more like Cholera, where good habits and precautions can avoid it. Don't know. But I'm not gonna bet on it be nothing. I'd rather fill the larder, and eat off it for the next year and be wrong.
For people like Monte, you need to realize that "panic" means that you don't trust the government to protect you. For him, preparing for this would only signal his distrust in the central governments to provide for him. It is somewhat analogous to a victim of the Black Death refusing to prepare for the oncoming pandemic because it would signal his disbelief that they could pray the disease away. It's just an irrational religious belief in the holiness and perfection of the state.

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Post by pineapplemike » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:54 pm

fuck china