i have plenty of food and money to survive a few months. and i have guns incase any of you freeloaders get touchy. just keep your meat hooks off. any of you h0mos touch my stuff, and i'll kill yaPh64 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:41 am...until you're getting evicted from that apartment for not paying rent because it turns out most employers won't pay you for not working... Oh yeah, and if you have no money it's hard to buy food, but hey, who needs to eat anyways right??pineapplemike wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:36 amhonestly a month long quarantine in my apartment sounds great, it'll be like a stay-cation away from work. idk what all these chinese people are complaining about, i thought they complained that they were overworked? now they get a vacation and they complain? good lord
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I'm not really "buying up" anything... Have a 5gal superpail of rice I've had for a couple years now, various cans of dehydrated survival food I've built up (buying when it's on sale) over a good decade+ here and there, a Berkey water filter I've had for a good decade (with spare filters), canned/dry goods I rotate through regularly...heydaralon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:02 amGuiltyPartyof5, SpeculatorofAnimals, and (P)Hoarder64 are trying to buy up all the rice and commodities to create a nightmare scenario. Are we gonna just sit here and take that?
I'm not buying anything other than what I've always bought really. As I said, the key to being prepared is to have stuff *before* the panic, not wait until the last minute. I most definitely have NOT been rushing around "buying up all the rice and commodities" in the past weeks. I'm not doing much of anything really to "prepare" for this virus other than I did buy some extra rubbing alcohol and two bottles of bleach I'll use for laundry eventually anyways.
Thus when like Hurricane Sandy ripped through a few years back and my area was totally blocked off by downed trees for a couple days, and power out for a week, didn't phase me in the slightest. My only worry was a tree falling on my house during the storm, not getting by after.
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LMAOPh64 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:37 amUPDATE
Reporter: can you tell me what we’re looking at?
WHO: We have what appears to be a dead body. But it’s till to early to tell.
What we do know is that he is not breathing, and it would seem that there’s no pulse . But it’s still to early to tell.
Reporter: can you give us any more information.?
WHO: Ha ha ... yes, well. There is a slight discolouration, and what may or may not be an odour of decay. But as I hate saying, it’s really too early to tell...ha ha.
Reporter: mmm, yes ... what is your immediate course of action?
WHO: we are considering incinerating him, but there are other options that experts around the world are still working on. Its really really much too early to say.
Reporter: and your recommendations to our viewers?
WHO: Do not stop flying all over the world. Do not be racist, and wash your hands. Other then that, you’re really on your own.
Reporter: well, thank you very much for this update, it’s been a pleasure talking to you.
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OK racist boomer. Keep denying food and medical care to people of color. I couldn't even buy Maruchan cup of noodles because someone emptied the shelves. Unbelievable greed.Ph64 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:00 amI'm not really "buying up" anything... Have a 5gal superpail of rice I've had for a couple years now, various cans of dehydrated survival food I've built up (buying when it's on sale) over a good decade+ here and there, a Berkey water filter I've had for a good decade (with spare filters), canned/dry goods I rotate through regularly...heydaralon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:02 amGuiltyPartyof5, SpeculatorofAnimals, and (P)Hoarder64 are trying to buy up all the rice and commodities to create a nightmare scenario. Are we gonna just sit here and take that?
I'm not buying anything other than what I've always bought really. As I said, the key to being prepared is to have stuff *before* the panic, not wait until the last minute. I most definitely have NOT been rushing around "buying up all the rice and commodities" in the past weeks. I'm not doing much of anything really to "prepare" for this virus other than I did buy some extra rubbing alcohol and two bottles of bleach I'll use for laundry eventually anyways.
Thus when like Hurricane Sandy ripped through a few years back and my area was totally blocked off by downed trees for a couple days, and power out for a week, didn't phase me in the slightest. My only worry was a tree falling on my house during the storm, not getting by after.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chin ... SKCN20I0N8
What a fucking shit show this is.
You don't need to admit it's a pandemic if you abolish the word pandemic. WTF. Let the clown empire die.
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Look at Italy's numbers today.
Total cases detected: 229
New Cases today: 72
You know there have to be a fuck ton more cases in the area of Milan to see that.
Total deaths: 7
New deaths today: +4
Total recovered: 1
Currently in critical: 23
That's already a 3% case fatality rate by naively deaths by total known cases. Of the closed cases, there are 5. 4 deaths and 1 recovery..
What a fucking shit show this is.
You don't need to admit it's a pandemic if you abolish the word pandemic. WTF. Let the clown empire die.
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Look at Italy's numbers today.
Total cases detected: 229
New Cases today: 72
You know there have to be a fuck ton more cases in the area of Milan to see that.
Total deaths: 7
New deaths today: +4
Total recovered: 1
Currently in critical: 23
That's already a 3% case fatality rate by naively deaths by total known cases. Of the closed cases, there are 5. 4 deaths and 1 recovery..
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Madagascar is the only place that is safe. To get them you need something like parasite and its gotta move slow so they don't close their port.
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Dude, you won. It's not going to be a pandemic because the WHO erased the word. It's genius. If you can't actually do your job, just erase the words for the shit you failed to do.
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Where have I ever argued that the Coronavirus wasn't a big deal? You are just putting words in my mouth now.
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Here is something that is a few days old and the infected count and death count are much higher now as. Maybe by doing this, it might help out other people:
https://www.livescience.com/blood-plasm ... ients.htmlOn Thursday (Feb. 13), a Chinese senior health official called on people who had recovered from the new coronavirus to donate blood plasma, because it might contain valuable proteins that could be used to treat sick patients, according to The New York Times.
The call for plasma came after an announcement by the state-owned company, China National Biotec Group, that these antibodies helped treat 10 critically ill patients, reducing their inflammation within 12 to 24 hours, according to the Times.
But is this a good idea? The approach is a logical and promising way to treat critically ill coronavirus patients, experts told Live Science. But because coronavirus has a low mortality rate, bypassing the normal drug testing process doesn't necessarily make sense, and doctors should be on high alert for possible side effects, they said.
Antibodies are proteins that the immune system makes to fight invaders such as viruses, bacteria or other foreign substances. Antibodies are specific to each invader. However, it takes time for the body to ramp up its production of antibodies to a completely new invader. If that same virus or bacteria tries to invade again in the future, the body will remember and quickly produce an army of antibodies.
People who have recently recovered from COVID-19 still have antibodies to the coronavirus circulating in their blood. Injecting those antibodies into sick patients could theoretically help patients better fight the infection.
In other words, this treatment will transfer the immunity of a recovered patient to a sick patient, an approach that has been used previously in flu pandemics, Benjamin Cowling, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Hong Kong, told the Times.
"I am glad to learn that under compassionate circumstances plasma from survivors is being tested," said Carol Shoshkes Reiss, a professor of biology and neural science at New York University who was not a part of the research. However, they will need to control for possible effects of the treatment, Reiss told Live Science in an email.
Under the Food and Drug Administration's "compassionate use" guidelines, experimental drugs can be given to people outside of clinical trials, typically in emergency situations. Though the FDA doesn't play a role in drug approval in China, a similar principle was likely at play; In this case, the people who were given the plasma were "critically ill," according to the Times.
Not everyone is convinced the rush to use blood plasma in patients makes sense.
"I think these theoretic[al] treatments are good ideas, but nothing about this virus or these infections makes me want to skip the normal process we use to make sure that a treatment is safe and effective before subjecting people to it," Dr. Eric Cioe-Peña, the director of global health at Northwell Health in New York who was not involved with the study, told Live Science in an email. "I think we should allow the scientific process to continue and attempt to study these proposed treatments before enacting them, especially in a virus that has such a low mortality."
Plasma infusions are just one of many treatment options experts are considering to treat COVID-19, which has now sickened nearly 65,000 people and led to 1,384 deaths. Others include repurposing antivirals or looking for brand-new molecules that can block the binding of the virus into cells, Live Science previously reported.
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Sorry, I don't donate blood or plasma Penner. Those scumbags should have gallons of it in their bodies. Use your own blood, dipshits.Penner wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:34 pmHere is something that is a few days old and the infected count and death count are much higher now as. Maybe by doing this, it might help out other people:
https://www.livescience.com/blood-plasm ... ients.htmlOn Thursday (Feb. 13), a Chinese senior health official called on people who had recovered from the new coronavirus to donate blood plasma, because it might contain valuable proteins that could be used to treat sick patients, according to The New York Times.
The call for plasma came after an announcement by the state-owned company, China National Biotec Group, that these antibodies helped treat 10 critically ill patients, reducing their inflammation within 12 to 24 hours, according to the Times.
But is this a good idea? The approach is a logical and promising way to treat critically ill coronavirus patients, experts told Live Science. But because coronavirus has a low mortality rate, bypassing the normal drug testing process doesn't necessarily make sense, and doctors should be on high alert for possible side effects, they said.
Antibodies are proteins that the immune system makes to fight invaders such as viruses, bacteria or other foreign substances. Antibodies are specific to each invader. However, it takes time for the body to ramp up its production of antibodies to a completely new invader. If that same virus or bacteria tries to invade again in the future, the body will remember and quickly produce an army of antibodies.
People who have recently recovered from COVID-19 still have antibodies to the coronavirus circulating in their blood. Injecting those antibodies into sick patients could theoretically help patients better fight the infection.
In other words, this treatment will transfer the immunity of a recovered patient to a sick patient, an approach that has been used previously in flu pandemics, Benjamin Cowling, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Hong Kong, told the Times.
"I am glad to learn that under compassionate circumstances plasma from survivors is being tested," said Carol Shoshkes Reiss, a professor of biology and neural science at New York University who was not a part of the research. However, they will need to control for possible effects of the treatment, Reiss told Live Science in an email.
Under the Food and Drug Administration's "compassionate use" guidelines, experimental drugs can be given to people outside of clinical trials, typically in emergency situations. Though the FDA doesn't play a role in drug approval in China, a similar principle was likely at play; In this case, the people who were given the plasma were "critically ill," according to the Times.
Not everyone is convinced the rush to use blood plasma in patients makes sense.
"I think these theoretic[al] treatments are good ideas, but nothing about this virus or these infections makes me want to skip the normal process we use to make sure that a treatment is safe and effective before subjecting people to it," Dr. Eric Cioe-Peña, the director of global health at Northwell Health in New York who was not involved with the study, told Live Science in an email. "I think we should allow the scientific process to continue and attempt to study these proposed treatments before enacting them, especially in a virus that has such a low mortality."
Plasma infusions are just one of many treatment options experts are considering to treat COVID-19, which has now sickened nearly 65,000 people and led to 1,384 deaths. Others include repurposing antivirals or looking for brand-new molecules that can block the binding of the virus into cells, Live Science previously reported.
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