SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:43 pm

Ph64 wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:42 pm
Come at me, bro. :lol:


Look at the numbers coming out of South Korea and Italy. This thing doubles in a few days. The Chinese don't seem to be on the up and up about how bad it was.

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Post by Ph64 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:15 pm

Eh, like the guys are saying, nothing to worry about...

7000 people in CA asked to self-quarantine...

https://ktla.com/2020/02/21/california- ... ronavirus/

...and 746 in WA, under "supervision" while self-quarantined...

https://komonews.com/news/local/officia ... s-outbreak

Nothing to see here, nothing to worry about...
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Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:44 pm

I think this flu scare is really overrated. Nonetheless, I decided to buy a few packages of ramen noodles just in case.

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Post by BjornP » Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:12 am

Ph64 wrote:
Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:15 pm
Eh, like the guys are saying, nothing to worry about...

7000 people in CA asked to self-quarantine...

https://ktla.com/2020/02/21/california- ... ronavirus/

...and 746 in WA, under "supervision" while self-quarantined...

https://komonews.com/news/local/officia ... s-outbreak

Nothing to see here, nothing to worry about...
That 746 people are (suspected to have gotten) infected, will not mean that 746 of them will actually die. If you have a weak immune system, are elderly, have severe pre-existing conditions or you have no access to medical treatment, sure... then it can be deadly. The death rate lies at 2.3%, which is more deadly than the flu, sure, but The Spanish Flu had its lowest death rate at 23% (in the most developed countries) and its highest at 71% (less developed). The common flu has a death rate around 1.6%.

Just as importantly, even if there is no cure for the virus, you can recover by getting treated for the symptoms. I have never been vaccinated against the flu, but I've had the flu and back then simply recieved medicine to combat the symptoms of it and recovered. Most people who get the coronavirus recover precisely because while there is no vaccine, you can still combat the disease by treating the symptoms, which allows you to recover.

The reason you guys are unneccesarily panicking, is that you're assuming that simply getting infected means millions of people will die. That infection equals lack of any sort of treatment, which is not true. The degree of coverage of professional medical health services the world over, are also greater today than they were a century ago during the Spanish Flu.
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Post by Montegriffo » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:38 am

The Spanish flu killed people of all ages. It wasn't limited to the elderly or immune weakened. People died very quickly, sometimes on the same day that their symptoms showed. Lungs filled up with blood and drowned the victims.
Unless this current virus mutates into a far more deadly disease it is not going to kill in the same numbers as the Spanish flu.
The most serious effects are going to be economic. We are going to see just how reliant we are on Chinese trade.
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Post by heydaralon » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:30 am

Its hilarious that these guys actually think this flu is something to worry about. We all know that this has nothing to do with the flu at this point. Its about winning an argument on the internet. A few people on here actually want the world to end so they can be right on an internet forum. And that is even more hilarious.
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Post by Hastur » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:45 am

The fear of the disease can be worse than the actual disease. People in groups are really stupid. But it's still part of what makes a pandemic bad. Some people dying is just one of the effects. The disruption of the economy and stupid people doing stupid things out of fear are other effects. All medical resource being used to treat those sick from the epidemic is another.
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Post by heydaralon » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:15 am

Hastur wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:45 am
The fear of the disease can be worse than the actual disease. People in groups are really stupid. But it's still part of what makes a pandemic bad. Some people dying is just one of the effects. The disruption of the economy and stupid people doing stupid things out of fear are other effects. All medical resource being used to treat those sick from the epidemic is another.
Interestingly, most folks on here could not give a rats ass about climate change. I know I am not worried in the least about it. Yet these same people who mock lefties for thinking the world is ending because of plastic straws think a silly little virus that is only slightly more lethal than the flu will create Mad Max.

Oh no! Some 80 year old died from the coronavirus. Old people have never died from the regular flu. We are in uncharted waters here! Whatever shall we do?
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Post by Hastur » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:18 am

heydaralon wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:15 am
Hastur wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:45 am
The fear of the disease can be worse than the actual disease. People in groups are really stupid. But it's still part of what makes a pandemic bad. Some people dying is just one of the effects. The disruption of the economy and stupid people doing stupid things out of fear are other effects. All medical resource being used to treat those sick from the epidemic is another.
Interestingly, most folks on here could not give a rats ass about climate change. I know I am not worried in the least about it. Yet these same people who mock lefties for thinking the world is ending because of plastic straws think a silly little virus that is only slightly more lethal than the flu will create Mad Max.

Oh no! Some 80 year old died from the coronavirus. Old people have never died from the regular flu. We are in uncharted waters here! Whatever shall we do?
Like someone said. SIFCLF is a helluva drug.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:52 am

Dow futures sank 800 points while Standard & Poor’s 500 futures slid 2.8%.

Global stocks were pummeled after South Korea reported 231 new cases of the deadly virus Monday, bringing the country’s total to 833 cases. China reported 409 new cases, raising the mainland’s total to 77,150. The 150 new deaths from the illness raised China’s total to 2,592.

“Many investors remain complacent about the far-reaching impact of coronavirus, which is continuing to spread – and a faster pace,” Nigel Green, chief executive and founder of financial consultancy deVere Group, said in a note. “This will inevitably hit financial markets and investors’ complacency leaves many wide open to nasty surprises.”

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4854737002



That was with central banks pumping massive amounts of funny money into the markets via monetary schemes these past few weeks.

The last ships from China should arrive early this week. If China does not start producing (at least 80% of their economy is literally shut down right now), we will just be running on what remains in our domestic supply chains. Most of the shit we make now is made with Chinese components, if we still even make it.

American steel might see a bump. Unless we go into lock down too.


Top economies:

United States
China
Japan
Germany
India
UK

Two of the top three now have the pandemic as community spread. Germany and UK have open borders with Italy. If India somehow escapes being the worst hit, it will be a miracle.