Climate Denier Hard To Refute

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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:36 am

Climate Alarmism is so entrenched in culture & education, it’s virtually impossible to fight back.

Heller has been absolutely destroying them since 2012 but have you ever even heard his name before?
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:52 pm

Calculus Man wrote:
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Speaker to Animals wrote:
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And back to the peer review racket.. Remember that professor the Marxist loons went after at that low-brow teaching college, Evergreen? Turns out that guy is actually smart as fuck, was condemned there because his evolutionary ideas bucked against “consensus”. He tried to get a paper published about it and was rejected by peer review. Then one of the scientists who rejected his paper stole the idea, conducted her own research, and got a Nobel Prize without crediting him for his contribution. Peer review is a gate-keeping system meant to protect a club within academia. It is not really part of science at all, but actually detrimental to science.
Interesting. What idea was stolen? Can you link to a related story or to the research the Marxist published?
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by The Conservative » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:00 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:36 am
Climate Alarmism is so entrenched in culture & education, it’s virtually impossible to fight back.

Heller has been absolutely destroying them since 2012 but have you ever even heard his name before?
Not in voice, only in passing. Before he was "ignored" by the "mainstream".
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:20 pm

I get a lot of enjoyment out of watching the back & forth videos between Tony Heller and the “debunkers.” You know when he’s got a debunker on the ropes when they wax poetically about something related to the issue but not exactly the fact being discussed. What I like best though is when they make a statement of fact that Heller can respond to. Sometimes they’re correct, and like a good debater, Tony readjusts his argument. As he minimizes his lost causes and presses when he’s got them backpedaling, he reminds me of Trump versus the Deep State.
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:27 pm

This also explains why Heller is getting more visibility; as he debates 100s of Alarmist claims, he drops the losers until almost everything he says is a stab through the heart.
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:30 pm

Trump is going to use a Red-Green, claim vs. counter-argument, format to create the next U.S. Climate Report, and I think it will result in more science and less politics.
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:24 am

In the spirit of a honest debate, here’s a good refutation of some of Heller’s more questionable claims:



Like all debunkers, he only takes on claims that are refutable. The good thing about this guy though is that he doesn’t seem to have a dog in the fight, whereas Heller is obviously religious.
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:02 pm

This debunker was very effective; he was hitting Heller where he was most vulnerable, and rather than take the hit and focus on stronger arguments, Tony wasted his credibility on the losers. There was a break for awhile after this during which the lesson was absorbed.

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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by heydaralon » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:06 pm

I mean, I liked Catch-22
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Re: Climate Denier Hard To Refute

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:34 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:06 pm
I mean, I liked Catch-22
Is that the one where you can shut down the world's economy to stop a few thousand people getting the sniffles but you can't do anything that might damage it in order to prevent an environmental collapse?
I think I read that one and I thought it was shit.
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