SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

[Montegriffo]

7:21 pm: Taiwan confirms first coronavirus death on island

Taiwanese health authorities announced the first death from the coronavirus on the island on Sunday. The deceased was a man in his 60s who had not traveled overseas and had hepatitis B and diabetes, Taiwan’s Health Minister Chen Shih-chung told media. Taiwan has 20 confirmed cases of the virus.

Dude I am at the hospital right now and they are saying that the coronavirus cure is like $750. They also want it wired to a paypal account that has my name on it. The hospital said that is just protocol and that it is my patient file. I can't come up with that kind of money on short notice. Would you mind sending the money to my paypal so I can get cured? Not a joke post, please help dude.

Don't write me off like you have in the past. I need money and quick!

The shelves will be empty in a post-apocalyptic world, retail workers are expendable.

[heydaralon]

Dude I am at the hospital right now and they are saying that the coronavirus cure is like $750. They also want it wired to a paypal account that has my name on it. The hospital said that is just protocol and that it is my patient file. I can't come up with that kind of money on short notice. Would you mind sending the money to my paypal so I can get cured? Not a joke post, please help dude.

Don't write me off like you have in the past. I need money and quick!

Okay, dude. In case you become incapacitated and unable to manage this, it might be best for me to set up a PayPal account on your behalf. This way people can send the money to me, who is healthy and able to pay the doctors. Otherwise you might be too sick to transfer the money to your doctors and thus get no vaccine in time.

That's very nice of you man! So I am setting up the paypal account in your name (to make it easier) and the site is asking for your social security number and some security questions like your mother's maiden name, first pet etc. It also needs a bank account number plus your credit card info. These are small issues that we can easily resolve if you send me this information. That way, we can set up an account that allows you to manage my medical finances. I think this can work. Just pm me all of your info.

[Montegriffo]

Nah. He is still signaling his blind faith in the managerial class. If he conducted even simplest precautionary measures, he’d instead be signaling his distrust in their beneficent rule. Not unlike a medieval peasant taking no precautions as the black death advanced upon England at the speed of human walking, instead praying the evil away. After all, planning for the Black Death would have been tantamount to doubting the power of the Church to pray the danger away.

History rhymes.

I'm just waiting for the looting to start before I stock up. There's no reason to abandon good fiscal sense just because the apocalypse is coming.

[Montegriffo]

I’m hoping it goes Black Death. My wages would double overnight

That's the spirit.
When life gives you lemons...

[SuburbanFarmer]

It's not totally out of your hands. Yes, hope that the mortality rate is much, much lower than the fears, but also take some basic precautions. If it does turn out to be very dangerous, it would be nice to lock your door and just bug in until the vaccine comes out. The ability to do that is still in your reach. A trip to Wallyworld is sufficient to handle most of it.

I already had a substantial emergency food supply, but just adding 60 lbs of rice and about 30 lbs of various legumes boosted that significantly. If it does break out here, I probably will just purchase a lot of fresh meat day one, throw it in the freezer, and I am good to go. Maybe a few large tubs of protein powder so I can turn my isolation into a fitness transformation.

Instead of just thinking in terms of how you can minimize the damage of the pandemic if it is very bad, consider ways you can can come out ahead. It's too late to profit financially unless you want to get into the business of hording supplies and selling them for large markup (the ideal strategy that isn't a cunt move being to have considered this risk to be an eventuality and having invested in all these little biotech companies from which the vaccine is bound to have originated, that are going to make an absolute fucking fortune vaccinating billions of people). In this case, you can still come out literally stronger. You can get prepared to write a book or something. I dunno. I am trying to make the potentiality into more than just a survival scenario (one I am confident I can get through no problem).

I mean.. if there is a small chance we are literally going to be isolated in our homes for months and months, then plan to make something out of that. Don't be like SF, running around with your hair on fire and reading infowars/zerohedge all day and assuming this is The Stand.

A highly mutative bio weapon is making its way around the world, and nobody appears capable of even slowing it down.

This, as we stand perched at the top of an absolutely unprecedented level of pending inflation, social instability, and wealth inequality, in a world peppered with nuclear weapons.

You may think I’m a panic monkey, or some kind of weirdo, but this has all the makings of a trigger for Final Collapse.

It’s not time to quit jobs and hunker down, but I fail to see how this is not a time to be deeply concerned.

I don't think you are a panic monkey. I just think you are drinking out of a poisoned well of propaganda and conspiracy theories. I doubt it would be a collapse, honestly, though if you are committed to the globalist project it might seem so. Globalism as we know it might be fucked.

Go into this aware and with preparedness but don't get into the end of the world shit just yet. So far this looks -- worst case -- as bad as the Spanish Flu pandemic, if even that strong. Which is really bad, but it's not the end of the world.

Most likely, if this really is that bad, nonessential work will stop and most of us are going to have to stay at home. It would be best, in that situation, to already have food on hand so that you don't have to go out periodically to gather food, which would drastically increase your chances of infection. In terms of work.. most people in Chinese cities are definitely not working, so you could expect something like that here as well.

If it really is that bad and if we don't have some treatment on hand when it gets here, anyway..

This reminds me of the debate we had over illegal migration, actually. I argued that we absolutely could not afford to slam the door shut all at once, or we’d destroy the existing economy.

I’m not wed to the globalist agenda whatsoever, and I’m a little horrified that I can’t buy a mask made here.

However, you might be vastly underestimating the amount of time it would take to even bring a tiny fraction of US manufacturing online. We’ve made it all but impossible, through economic distortion. You’d be paying 3-5x as much for anything made in the US, even at minimum wage. More to the point, you wouldn’t have a single product on the shelves in less than 2-3 years.

Like it or not, we are seeing the entire supply chain shut down, and thanks to normalcy bias, nobody is even thinking about making things here yet. Not that they could get financing anyway, once the stock market wakes up to the problem.

We are looking at a perfect storm.

[Manwithnoname]

I’m hoping it goes Black Death. My wages would double overnight

That's the spirit.
When life gives you lemons...

Clouds and silver linings

[Montegriffo]

If you don't have the skills required to make your own face mask you will just be a liability in the coming age.
If this is you then do what is best for society and go eat a fruit bat.

[Montegriffo]

I’m hoping it goes Black Death. My wages would double overnight

That's the spirit.
When life gives you lemons...

Clouds and silver linings

I'm hoping it goes full collapse back to medieval life. If it does, my trebuchet building skills will be in high demand.

[Speaker to Animals]

A highly mutative bio weapon is making its way around the world, and nobody appears capable of even slowing it down.

This, as we stand perched at the top of an absolutely unprecedented level of pending inflation, social instability, and wealth inequality, in a world peppered with nuclear weapons.

You may think I’m a panic monkey, or some kind of weirdo, but this has all the makings of a trigger for Final Collapse.

It’s not time to quit jobs and hunker down, but I fail to see how this is not a time to be deeply concerned.

I don't think you are a panic monkey. I just think you are drinking out of a poisoned well of propaganda and conspiracy theories. I doubt it would be a collapse, honestly, though if you are committed to the globalist project it might seem so. Globalism as we know it might be fucked.

Go into this aware and with preparedness but don't get into the end of the world shit just yet. So far this looks -- worst case -- as bad as the Spanish Flu pandemic, if even that strong. Which is really bad, but it's not the end of the world.

Most likely, if this really is that bad, nonessential work will stop and most of us are going to have to stay at home. It would be best, in that situation, to already have food on hand so that you don't have to go out periodically to gather food, which would drastically increase your chances of infection. In terms of work.. most people in Chinese cities are definitely not working, so you could expect something like that here as well.

If it really is that bad and if we don't have some treatment on hand when it gets here, anyway..

This reminds me of the debate we had over illegal migration, actually. I argued that we absolutely could not afford to slam the door shut all at once, or we’d destroy the existing economy.

I’m not wed to the globalist agenda whatsoever, and I’m a little horrified that I can’t buy a mask made here.

However, you might be vastly underestimating the amount of time it would take to even bring a tiny fraction of US manufacturing online. We’ve made it all but impossible, through economic distortion. You’d be paying 3-5x as much for anything made in the US, even at minimum wage. More to the point, you wouldn’t have a single product on the shelves in less than 2-3 years.

Like it or not, we are seeing the entire supply chain shut down, and thanks to normalcy bias, nobody is even thinking about making things here yet. Not that they could get financing anyway, once the stock market wakes up to the problem.

We are looking at a perfect storm.

The problem with the sources you rely on is that they take a kernel of truth and then blow it out of proportion. This is probably not a "bioweapon". If it is, then it sucks as a bioweapon. A weaponized virus is suppose to infect the immediate population and then kill everybody so that it does not cause a pandemic. This thing is not that. Nobody is going to make a "bioweapon" that has a two plus week incubation period with highly infectious asymptomatic transmission. At best you could argue the Chinese were willing to use their epidemic as a weapon by infecting foreign officials in meetings and possibly the trade shows to get at foreign corporate competition.

They take a grain of truth (that this probably originated in the research lab down the street from the seafood market) and conflated that with a weapon's research facility that is many miles away. We know there are no bats in or around Hubei. There were no bats in the seafood market. There is right across the street a civilian lab that researches bat viruses. It's kind of obvious where this shit came from. It's not a weapon. It's just normal Chinese stupidity fucking us all in the ass (again).

[SuburbanFarmer]

I don't think you are a panic monkey. I just think you are drinking out of a poisoned well of propaganda and conspiracy theories. I doubt it would be a collapse, honestly, though if you are committed to the globalist project it might seem so. Globalism as we know it might be fucked.

Go into this aware and with preparedness but don't get into the end of the world shit just yet. So far this looks -- worst case -- as bad as the Spanish Flu pandemic, if even that strong. Which is really bad, but it's not the end of the world.

Most likely, if this really is that bad, nonessential work will stop and most of us are going to have to stay at home. It would be best, in that situation, to already have food on hand so that you don't have to go out periodically to gather food, which would drastically increase your chances of infection. In terms of work.. most people in Chinese cities are definitely not working, so you could expect something like that here as well.

If it really is that bad and if we don't have some treatment on hand when it gets here, anyway..

This reminds me of the debate we had over illegal migration, actually. I argued that we absolutely could not afford to slam the door shut all at once, or we’d destroy the existing economy.

I’m not wed to the globalist agenda whatsoever, and I’m a little horrified that I can’t buy a mask made here.

However, you might be vastly underestimating the amount of time it would take to even bring a tiny fraction of US manufacturing online. We’ve made it all but impossible, through economic distortion. You’d be paying 3-5x as much for anything made in the US, even at minimum wage. More to the point, you wouldn’t have a single product on the shelves in less than 2-3 years.

Like it or not, we are seeing the entire supply chain shut down, and thanks to normalcy bias, nobody is even thinking about making things here yet. Not that they could get financing anyway, once the stock market wakes up to the problem.

We are looking at a perfect storm.

The problem with the sources you rely on is that they take a kernel of truth and then blow it out of proportion. This is probably not a "bioweapon". If it is, then it sucks as a bioweapon. A weaponized virus is suppose to infect the immediate population and then kill everybody so that it does not cause a pandemic. This thing is not that.

They take a grain of truth (that this probably originated in the research lab down the street from the seafood market) and conflated that with a weapon's research facility that is many miles away. We know there are no bats in or around Hubei. There were no bats in the seafood market. There is right across the street a civilian lab that researches bat viruses. It's kind of obvious where this shit came from. It's not a weapon. It's just normal Chinese stupidity fucking us all in the ass (again).

I say bioweapon, but you may be right that it’s some kind of experimental version. Regardless, it’s definitely synthetic.

There are several studies citing sections of genetic code transplanted from HIV, which would almost certainly not happen naturally. There’s the insane period of asymptomatic transmission, which I don’t believe have ever been seen in a flu virus. There’s also the fact that this thing appears to be re-infecting and killing instantly, which is extremely unusual in human disease.
Lastly, there’s the fact that diseases simply don’t move between species with any frequency. The odds of all these things coming together from ‘bat soup’ are completely absurd.

Either we just shot the fucking moon with this thing, or it’s a bioweapon/attempt at one that escaped confinement.