SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:26 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:32 pm
The one thing the conspiracy theorists have going for them is this:

Governments really freaked out early on. We found out about this outbreak and the federal government was shutting down flights from that region with a few days. The government officials in China are not acting like this is under control either. They seem pretty spooked.

One thing we all should consider here is that this globohomo clown empire is run on global trade and commerce. The people in charge derive all their power from open borders and the free flow of humans and goods. They didn't even give a shit when ebola started breaking out, making the importation of ebola a virtue signalling exercise. They are quarantining people now coming home from China and they are NOT allowing flights from there. It's not just America. The world is about to start locking down entire regions of the globe if needs be.

Something clearly has them spooked where even ebola didn't faze them.

I think we should be ready for a pandemic in a month or two. Just be prepared to shut yourselves in for a month. Have enough potable water on hand and enough freeze-dried food to carry you through. I am not saying woo woo here, just being cautiously realistic. If the PRC is burning bodies to cover up the fatality rate, and given the virulence of this thing, I wouldn't put much faith in the CDC from keeping that virus out of the general population.
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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Ph64 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:16 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:26 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:32 pm
The one thing the conspiracy theorists have going for them is this:

Governments really freaked out early on. We found out about this outbreak and the federal government was shutting down flights from that region with a few days. The government officials in China are not acting like this is under control either. They seem pretty spooked.

One thing we all should consider here is that this globohomo clown empire is run on global trade and commerce. The people in charge derive all their power from open borders and the free flow of humans and goods. They didn't even give a shit when ebola started breaking out, making the importation of ebola a virtue signalling exercise. They are quarantining people now coming home from China and they are NOT allowing flights from there. It's not just America. The world is about to start locking down entire regions of the globe if needs be.

Something clearly has them spooked where even ebola didn't faze them.

I think we should be ready for a pandemic in a month or two. Just be prepared to shut yourselves in for a month. Have enough potable water on hand and enough freeze-dried food to carry you through. I am not saying woo woo here, just being cautiously realistic. If the PRC is burning bodies to cover up the fatality rate, and given the virulence of this thing, I wouldn't put much faith in the CDC from keeping that virus out of the general population.
Bingo.

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Ebola is deadlier, but harder to contract.

A flu like virus like the WuFlu is far easier to get spread around.

I always keep enough canned goods, rice, etc, and some freeze dried stuff, that I'm sure I could do a month without leaving my yard. I'd be getting kinda tired of a rather monotonous diet, but I wouldn't starve.
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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:37 pm

I doubt ebola was really harder to contract. They didn't even know it was airborne until they started bringing ebola patients here and it spread to that nurse. The big difference is that ebola usually starts out in the middle of fucking nowhere whereas coronavirus' ground zero was in the middle of a huge Chinese city of all places. If ebola escaped into Wuhan, you best better believe we'd be in trouble without the new vaccine. There are over 10 million people in that city. That's twice as many in a small urban area than all of Congo.

What makes the coronavirus more dangerous is that people are spreading it for a few weeks before they even have symptoms of being ill.

5-20% of the US population gets the flu every year. If that happens with coronavirus, you are looking at between 300,000 and 1,234,000 American fatalities. I'd say it could be quite a lot worse than the flu because of that long infectious incubation period.

The only way ebola factors into it is to show how quickly governments freaked out about this. That they are willing to cut off China from the global transportation network is actually amazing. Nothing like this has happened before. Even more amazing is how the media is not even talking about how different this is. They are just playing it like SARS.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:17 pm

Creepy footage in Shanghai today.


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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:24 pm

And this bitch is doubling in cases every six days. Yikes.

This guy has a good point about calculating the mortality rate. You really need to take the number of deaths we have today and divide that by the number of cases we had a week ago (not the number of cases today).



He is saying 8.5% if you do that, and it's closer to the 11% fatality rate in Wuhan.


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Post by Montegriffo » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:37 pm

Shutting down international flights and unnecessary travel is a positive.
Going to be a lot more staycations this year.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:40 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:37 pm
Shutting down international flights and unnecessary travel is a positive.
Going to be a lot more staycations this year.
I think it might be too late, dude. They had only maybe a day to stop it and the local communist party in that city suppressed the story and encouraged a huge new year celebration. Now it's everywhere in China with a six day doubling rate. I mean.. fuck. What happens when it gets to India?

I bet that guy is right and we are actually looking at an 8-11% mortality rate. I should have thought of what he was saying before but it didn't occur to me. You have to divide the fatalities by the number of cases two weeks ago.

All those Chinese cities are on lock down and quarantine now. The army is patrolling the borders and rivers. This shit is crazy.

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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:46 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:40 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:37 pm
Shutting down international flights and unnecessary travel is a positive.
Going to be a lot more staycations this year.
I think it might be too late, dude. They had only maybe a day to stop it and the local communist party in that city suppressed the story and encouraged a huge new year celebration. Now it's everywhere in China with a six day doubling rate. I mean.. fuck. What happens when it gets to India?

I bet that guy is right and we are actually looking at an 8-11% mortality rate. I should have thought of what he was saying before but it didn't occur to me. You have to divide the fatalities by the number of cases two weeks ago.

All those Chinese cities are on lock down and quarantine now. The army is patrolling the borders and rivers. This shit is crazy.
Actually they shut down all public new year celebrations.
They are being a lot more open than they were with SARS.
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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:47 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:46 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:40 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:37 pm
Shutting down international flights and unnecessary travel is a positive.
Going to be a lot more staycations this year.
I think it might be too late, dude. They had only maybe a day to stop it and the local communist party in that city suppressed the story and encouraged a huge new year celebration. Now it's everywhere in China with a six day doubling rate. I mean.. fuck. What happens when it gets to India?

I bet that guy is right and we are actually looking at an 8-11% mortality rate. I should have thought of what he was saying before but it didn't occur to me. You have to divide the fatalities by the number of cases two weeks ago.

All those Chinese cities are on lock down and quarantine now. The army is patrolling the borders and rivers. This shit is crazy.
Actually they shut down all public new year celebrations.
They are being a lot more open than they were with SARS.
No, they didn't. That is how this thing escaped in the first place. They threatened to imprison the doctor who tried to stop them.

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Post by Penner » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:09 pm

Calculus Man wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:35 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:34 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:26 pm


Yeah, the Chinese government numbers are garbage. Consensus is 10% mortality, but we won’t know until it really gets going outside of bug town.
What concensus?
The consensus he pulled out of his arse. :lol: 10% does seem like a pretty reasonable number though...
My guess is that this is going to spread - fast and will kill everyone
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