MHF Democrat Primary Poll

[StCapps]

Don't know why you'd trust a poll by the most biased anti-Biden camp out there, oh wait, it's because it fits the narrative you desire. Hillary Clinton's internal polls had her winning the rust belt so easily she didn't even have to visit, beware of internal polling.

[The Conservative]

I bet you she got 2nd. And as a masshole she has somewhat of a homecoming in NH.

Even if she did, she isn't a better choice than Biden, and has less of a chance at beating Bernie than he does. Democrats know this, they ain't going to abandon Biden because she did okay in Iowa, be real.

They are scrambling, disorganized, and desperate. I wouldn't rule them out calling on Deval Patrick, man.

Oh please do... They do that the DNC will be DESTROYED.

[clubgop]

LOL the DNC is so desperate. This scheme could help Bernie, honestly, by keeping his supporters motivated to show up and vote across the country.

Biden is fucking done. Total collapse on Day One. LMFAO

State Democratic party officials announced that due to “quality control” issues, release of the result would be indefinitely delayed. On a conference call with representatives of the candidates, party officials hung up the phone when asked when the totals would be released.

So what do we know? Well, one thing we can say confidently is that “frontrunner” Joe Biden flopped. There were places where Biden didn’t even meet the 15% threshold needed to maintain viability from the first round to the second round – at one caucus site, the attorney general of Iowa had to switch from Biden to Buttigieg when Biden was disqualified. It explains why Biden’s surrogate John Kerry was heard on the phone the other day asking whether it would be possible for him to enter the race at the last minute to save the Democratic party from being conquered by Sanders.

Internal numbers released by the Sanders campaign, showing results from 40% of caucus sites, showed Sanders winning with approximately 30% of the vote, Pete Buttigieg coming in second with 25%, Elizabeth Warren third with 21%, and Joe Biden a very distant fourth with 12%. If those numbers match the ultimate totals, they are great for Sanders and absolutely horrific for Biden. Sanders will have kicked the crap out of the frontrunner, Barack Obama’s former vice-president and the man most favored to win the nomination. It would be a stunning upset.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... badly-iowa


If you are a globalist-corporatist democratic insider, now would be a good time to set your hair on fire and run helplessly around your local democratic party offices screaming at the sky.


I repeat: the media narrative is not reality.

They are already doing that trying to count votes. The incompetence line is much more beneficial to us than the conspiracy theory. Sure they are trying to hamper Bernie but they can't even do that right.

[clubgop]

Even if she did, she isn't a better choice than Biden, and has less of a chance at beating Bernie than he does. Democrats know this, they ain't going to abandon Biden because she did okay in Iowa, be real.

They are scrambling, disorganized, and desperate. I wouldn't rule them out calling on Deval Patrick, man.

Oh please do... They do that the DNC will be DESTROYED.

They are enroute to that now.

[The Conservative]

They are scrambling, disorganized, and desperate. I wouldn't rule them out calling on Deval Patrick, man.

Oh please do... They do that the DNC will be DESTROYED.

They are enroute to that now.

You put Deval into the mix; the DNC become lemmings. And the cliffs look mighty appealing.

[PartyOf5]

LOL the DNC is so desperate. This scheme could help Bernie, honestly, by keeping his supporters motivated to show up and vote across the country.

Biden is fucking done. Total collapse on Day One. LMFAO

State Democratic party officials announced that due to “quality control” issues, release of the result would be indefinitely delayed. On a conference call with representatives of the candidates, party officials hung up the phone when asked when the totals would be released.

So what do we know? Well, one thing we can say confidently is that “frontrunner” Joe Biden flopped. There were places where Biden didn’t even meet the 15% threshold needed to maintain viability from the first round to the second round – at one caucus site, the attorney general of Iowa had to switch from Biden to Buttigieg when Biden was disqualified. It explains why Biden’s surrogate John Kerry was heard on the phone the other day asking whether it would be possible for him to enter the race at the last minute to save the Democratic party from being conquered by Sanders.

Internal numbers released by the Sanders campaign, showing results from 40% of caucus sites, showed Sanders winning with approximately 30% of the vote, Pete Buttigieg coming in second with 25%, Elizabeth Warren third with 21%, and Joe Biden a very distant fourth with 12%. If those numbers match the ultimate totals, they are great for Sanders and absolutely horrific for Biden. Sanders will have kicked the crap out of the frontrunner, Barack Obama’s former vice-president and the man most favored to win the nomination. It would be a stunning upset.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... badly-iowa


If you are a globalist-corporatist democratic insider, now would be a good time to set your hair on fire and run helplessly around your local democratic party offices screaming at the sky.


I repeat: the media narrative is not reality.

"Quality control issues". In other words, Biden did so poorly the DNC can't figure out how to fudge the numbers and still make it somewhat believable.

[Speaker to Animals]

I know somebody who was a caucus chair. It kind of sounds like the app wasn't really that bad, but there was no training on it and older users were unable to figure it out.

This story is not really adding up.

They are not even saying what it was about the app that failed. It's like one of those bullshit excuses where there are no details provided and, if you start digging, the excuses unravel in short order.

[The Conservative]

I know somebody who was a caucus chair. It kind of sounds like the app wasn't really that bad, but there was no training on it and older users were unable to figure it out.

This story is not really adding up.

They are not even saying what it was about the app that failed. It's like one of those bullshit excuses where there are no details provided and, if you start digging, the excuses unravel in short order.

The software was created by the same group that are Never-Trumpers.

I think that's all you really need to know about the quality of the software.

[Speaker to Animals]

I know somebody who was a caucus chair. It kind of sounds like the app wasn't really that bad, but there was no training on it and older users were unable to figure it out.

This story is not really adding up.

They are not even saying what it was about the app that failed. It's like one of those bullshit excuses where there are no details provided and, if you start digging, the excuses unravel in short order.

The software was created by the same group that are Never-Trumpers.

I think that's all you really need to know about the quality of the software.

Point being: the problem, such as it was, had more to do with total dumbasses who could not figure out how to install the app and log into it. It's more of a condemnation of the entire concept of a caucus (since most people are fucking dumb).

Instead of just reading propaganda to boost your feels, actually dissect it. Look for any explanation as to what exactly failed with this app. The best you can find is that people had trouble logging in, and that comports generally to what I am learning.

The app itself is not a conspiracy, but they damned well may have made the problem much worse when they realized Biden and Warren imploded. The "app failure" story is nonsense.

The original caucus system was still in place. The app was just supposed to work on top of that to speed up results. It should not have changed anything other than speeding it up or not. There should not have been delays. They still have paper trails, and should have been able to count everything by hand just as they did every cycle before this.

[The Conservative]

I know somebody who was a caucus chair. It kind of sounds like the app wasn't really that bad, but there was no training on it and older users were unable to figure it out.

This story is not really adding up.

They are not even saying what it was about the app that failed. It's like one of those bullshit excuses where there are no details provided and, if you start digging, the excuses unravel in short order.

The software was created by the same group that are Never-Trumpers.

I think that's all you really need to know about the quality of the software.

Point being: the problem, such as it was, had more to do with total dumbasses who could not figure out how to install the app and log into it. It's more of a condemnation of the entire concept of a caucus (since most people are fucking dumb).

Instead of just reading propaganda to boost your feels, actually dissect it. Look for any explanation as to what exactly failed with this app. The best you can find is that people had trouble logging in, and that comports generally to what I am learning.

The app itself is not a conspiracy, but they damned well may have made the problem much worse when they realized Biden and Warren imploded. The "app failure" story is nonsense.

The original caucus system was still in place. The app was just supposed to work on top of that to speed up results. It should not have changed anything other than speeding it up or not. There should not have been delays. They still have paper trails, and should have been able to count everything by hand just as they did every cycle before this.

Think it had to do more with the developers not designing it so that the illiterate could operate it... either way, these people should never have been allowed to make the software in the first place. I'd want to check the paper/money trail and see where it ends... because I'm sure this was a non-compete contract...