Brexit

[Montegriffo]

European consumers don't want lower food standards.

[StCapps]

European consumers don't want lower food standards.

Then why do they need tariffs to keep the products out? If they won't buy them because of "lower standards", no need for tariffs. The tariffs are there because European consumers do want those products, it's just that other consumers want to take the choice away from them, because they are protectionist faggots.

[Martin Hash]

This debate is exactly why Britain can tell the ECJ to fuck off. As if the EU food police and forced migrant resettlement makes you better people; how's that working out?

[Hastur]

They should dress up like Native Americans, board some ships and throw European food into the water.

[Hastur]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... h-optimism

It's our 1776, and we're brimming with optimism

by Dan Hannan | February 03, 2020 12:00 AM


John Adams was the gloomiest of the American founders, deeply pessimistic about man’s fallen nature. But when the Declaration of Independence was issued in 1776, even he got swept up in the mood.

“Through all the Gloom, I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory,” he wrote to his wife, Abigail. “I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Prosperity will triumph.”

He was spectacularly right, of course. The United States went on to become the richest and most successful country on Earth. And come to think of it, it is hard to come up with an example of a nation that over time has not become wealthier as a result of becoming more self-governing.

The British are an understated people, and Adams’s language strikes us as a just a tad florid. But we feel upbeat as we recover our independence from the European Union. Indeed, though you might not think so from the overseas coverage, Britain, at least outside of London, is bubbling with what passes here for extravagant excitement. Parties are happening all over the country to mark our departure. Complete strangers keep coming up to me and saying things such as, “Thank heaven it has all worked out.” (If you have spent any time in Britain, you will appreciate what a big deal it is for complete strangers to talk to you.)

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[clubgop]

They should dress up like Native Americans, board some ships and throw European food into the water.

More like Muslim migrants. We'll have to see if Justin Trudeau and Ralph Northam are available.

[Montegriffo]

European consumers don't want lower food standards.

Then why do they need tariffs to keep the products out? If they won't buy them because of "lower standards", no need for tariffs. The tariffs are there because European consumers do want those products, it's just that other consumers want to take the choice away from them, because they are protectionist faggots.

It's not tariffs that keep certain foods out, it's regulations.
There's nothing stopping Brazillian chickens coming into Europe. If the US wants to sell chickens and chicken products it just has to up its game.

[Montegriffo]

This debate is exactly why Britain can tell the ECJ to fuck off. As if the EU food police and forced migrant resettlement makes you better people; how's that working out?

What forced migrant resettlement? The UK was never part of the Schengen zone.

[Montegriffo]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... h-optimism

It's our 1776, and we're brimming with optimism

by Dan Hannan | February 03, 2020 12:00 AM


John Adams was the gloomiest of the American founders, deeply pessimistic about man’s fallen nature. But when the Declaration of Independence was issued in 1776, even he got swept up in the mood.

“Through all the Gloom, I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory,” he wrote to his wife, Abigail. “I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Prosperity will triumph.”

He was spectacularly right, of course. The United States went on to become the richest and most successful country on Earth. And come to think of it, it is hard to come up with an example of a nation that over time has not become wealthier as a result of becoming more self-governing.

The British are an understated people, and Adams’s language strikes us as a just a tad florid. But we feel upbeat as we recover our independence from the European Union. Indeed, though you might not think so from the overseas coverage, Britain, at least outside of London, is bubbling with what passes here for extravagant excitement. Parties are happening all over the country to mark our departure. Complete strangers keep coming up to me and saying things such as, “Thank heaven it has all worked out.” (If you have spent any time in Britain, you will appreciate what a big deal it is for complete strangers to talk to you.)

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''all worked out''?
Nothing has been worked out, negotiations have only just started and already the fishing industry is realising that they aren't getting it all their own way.
That is what Boris wants us to think though. He's banned his cabinet from even using the word Brexit. He wants everybody to just switch off now so they can avoid scrutiny or blame for what is to come.

[StCapps]

European consumers don't want lower food standards.

Then why do they need tariffs to keep the products out? If they won't buy them because of "lower standards", no need for tariffs. The tariffs are there because European consumers do want those products, it's just that other consumers want to take the choice away from them, because they are protectionist faggots.

It's not tariffs that keep certain foods out, it's regulations.
There's nothing stopping Brazillian chickens coming into Europe. If the US wants to sell chickens and chicken products it just has to up its game.

Or the US is doing a great job and Europe is using regulation as protectionism, because it's really their products that are inferior and because their products have to be in line with ridiculous overregulation, they can't compete with American products. Doing it via regulation is even worse, that is taking the choice away from even those willing to pay a huge markup due to tariffs, I mean they are so scared of competition they won't even allow anyone to buy it at a huge markup, talk about a clear sign of weakness.

You seem to think there is a good reason for all the regulations, but that is just you having too much faith in government competence, as usual. The EU has high standard to keep out competition, it has nothing to do with safety, there is nothing wrong with the American standard, certainly not to the point where they need to shut out of the market completely.