Brexit

[Montegriffo]

The national anthem still contains a snub to the Scots.

The little-known and even less-sung sixth verse of God Save the Queen implores God to come to the aid of Marshal George Wade, who was sent to quell rebellious Scottish highlanders in the wake of the Jacobite rising of 1715.

It says: "May he sedition hush, And like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush."

It's little wonder they still hate us with divisive lyrics like that.

[Montegriffo]

Or maybe we should just accept the inevitable consequences of post Brexit Britain and ask Morrissey if we can use this.

[Speaker to Animals]

More like..


Panic on the streets of london
panic on the streets of birmingham
i wonder to myself
could life ever be sane again?
the leeds side-streets that you slip down
i wonder to myself
hopes may rise on the grasmere
but honey pie, you're not safe here
so you run down
to the safety of the town
but there's panic on the streets of carlisle
dublin, dundee, humberside
i wonder to myself
Burn down the disco
hang the blessed dj
because the music that they constantly play
it says nothing to me about my life
hang the blessed dj
because the music they constantly play






I'd say fuck the Nazi 2.0 project in the ass and burn it down. But you do you.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yet Farage wants us to hard Brexit and leave the Common Market.
Who is going to oppose the federalisation of Europe now that Britain is leaving the EU?
Germany and France can now move forward with their plans for a United States of Europe and there is no one left with the power to stop them.
A classic case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
We're moving from a position of power within the EU to being America's bitch, desperate for approval to ensure the best possible trade deal with the US.

America > The EU
That's an upgrade fool.

Being America's bitch is not an upgrade from a position of power within the EU.
Mind you, the Tory spokesman on Question Time tonight made it clear that we will not be buying any chlorinated chicken or growth hormone beef in the future and after a big FU to Trump over Huawei being involved in our 5G system any trade deal with the US is going to be hard-fought.

You can do whatever you want to do now. You don't have to be anybody's bitch. You are a sovereign nation again. This is gaslighting that you are engaging in. Are you trying to gaslight yourself?

[Montegriffo]

Not this sovereignty crap again. We never lost our sovereignty.
Parliamentary supremacy was always in effect.

[PartyOf5]

You can do whatever you want to do now. You don't have to be anybody's bitch. You are a sovereign nation again. This is gaslighting that you are engaging in. Are you trying to gaslight yourself?

All they know is being somebody's bitch. It's like the girl in college that could never handle being single.

[Speaker to Animals]

Not this sovereignty crap again. We never lost our sovereignty.
Parliamentary supremacy was always in effect.

Well, that's manifestly false. They repeatedly overruled your own parliament.

[Montegriffo]

Not this sovereignty crap again. We never lost our sovereignty.
Parliamentary supremacy was always in effect.

Well, that's manifestly false. They repeatedly overruled your own parliament.

Name one law which was forced on the British people without the approval of Parliament.

[Speaker to Animals]

Not this sovereignty crap again. We never lost our sovereignty.
Parliamentary supremacy was always in effect.

Well, that's manifestly false. They repeatedly overruled your own parliament.

Name one law which was forced on the British people without the approval of Parliament.

In 2013, when the government was trying to refuse entry to a known terrorist with a French passport, the ECJ ruled in his favour after his lawyers argued that under the charter he was entitled to know the grounds for excluding him, potentially compromising sensitive intelligence.

Now, astonishingly, an Act of Parliament described by the Home Secretary as “crucial to fighting crime, protecting children and combating terrorism” is in jeopardy because of the unaccountable judges in Luxembourg. The ECJ is going to rule soon after the referendum on whether the Data Protection and Regulatory Powers Act, passed in 2014, after long parliamentary debates, is consistent with the charter. As a consequence, parts of the Act may be struck down.

The ECJ’s judgments can result in multibillion-pound losses for the British government. In the past six years, the Court has ruled against HMRC in £7 billion-worth of cases brought by multinational companies disputing VAT and other tax bills. More claims to a value of £43 billion are currently awaiting judgment.

Given the disdain with which the ECJ treated the British opt-out from the charter and how freely it interprets its own powers, it is hard to see how Mr Cameron’s renegotiation of Britain’s relationship with Brussels can be safe.

The ECJ may find that the so-called “emergency brake” on freedom of movement is incompatible with rights under the charter. Or it may decide that provisions intended to prevent discrimination against countries that do not use the euro are contrary to the EU’s treaties. Britain’s exemption from “ever-closer union” may be vulnerable if the ECJ’s definition of the term differs from our government’s.

Just a few weeks ago, in the Queen’s Speech, the government claimed it would “uphold the sovereignty of parliament and the primacy of the House of Commons”. That boast rings hollow as long as our ability to determine our own laws is picked apart by the EU and its unaccountable judges. For the future of our democracy, we should vote Leave today.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/0 ... -our-laws/

Research by the Vote Leave referendum campaign group found that the UK has been defeated in 101 out of 131 legal actions taken to the European Court of Justice over the last 40 years.

Rulings against the UK Government included prolonging a ban on world-wide export of British beef and scrapping a cut in beer duty.

The failure rate of 77.1 per cent for Britain in the Luxembourg-based court was last night being seen as fresh evidence of the urgent need for country to quit the EU.

Tory justice minister Dominic Raab said: "The EU has a long-track record of shifting the goal-posts.

"Britain thinks it is signed up for one thing, only to find something very different imposed on us.

"In 40 years, we've lost three-quarters of cases at the Luxembourg Court, when we've tried to resist these incursions.

"They affect everything from the price of beer to the cost of home insulation, and undermine basic principle of our democracy - that the British people can hold to account those who write the laws of the land."

Researchers from Vote Leave, which is campaigning for an "out" vote in this summer's in-or-out EU referendum, studied the result of every European Court of Justice case involving the UK since the country joined the European Economic Community

in 1973.

The figures showed that the UK Government won only 30 of cases it fought in the court.

It also revealed the failure rate has worsened to 80 per cent since David Cameron became Prime Minister in May 2010.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/64889 ... Leave-Gove


Why do you expect random strangers to inform you about the consequences of your voting habits after the fact of your voting? I shouldn't have to quote common news articles to you.

[Speaker to Animals]

Seriously, Montey, should you not have voted if you were not even informed about the actual problems that led to the Brexit vote in the first place? this kind of illustrates my problem with democracy today. Maybe you should not hold an opinion about politics when you don't even know anything about the issues being voted upon. Maybe you shouldn't vote if you don't even bother to understand what you are voting for or against?