The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
They might not be reliant on SLOCS, but they are reliant on SLAVS. Russia is full of SLAVS, and those ethnics power that economy. By nuking them, we remove their SLAVs and bring the big red bear to its knees. Its the only way to guarantee global security. We need those shipping lanes to stay open, period. What else is there to say?
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
A war with Russia would be a Warm War.
Not a full on Hot War, something in between.
It wouldn't be as high intensity and fast paced as the World War Three template
It would be a hybrid war.
They would not mass their forces in a blitzkrieg to be destroyed in a hail of precision guided weapons.
They would strike from the shadows while using the threat of their nuclear weapons to shield that.
This war is already in progress, it's just nascent at this juncture.
It's like they pop nerve gas in the UK : what you gonna do about it ? What can you do ?
It would be like that, on a much larger scale.
They have the survivable second strike deterrent, retaliating against them directly is not an option.
You want to get into nuclear brinkmanship with them ? Who in the West has the stomach for that ?
Not a full on Hot War, something in between.
It wouldn't be as high intensity and fast paced as the World War Three template
It would be a hybrid war.
They would not mass their forces in a blitzkrieg to be destroyed in a hail of precision guided weapons.
They would strike from the shadows while using the threat of their nuclear weapons to shield that.
This war is already in progress, it's just nascent at this juncture.
It's like they pop nerve gas in the UK : what you gonna do about it ? What can you do ?
It would be like that, on a much larger scale.
They have the survivable second strike deterrent, retaliating against them directly is not an option.
You want to get into nuclear brinkmanship with them ? Who in the West has the stomach for that ?
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
If we have to sacrifice the entire EU to preserve American liberty, then that is what needs to be done by our leaders. Even though the UK is no longer part of the EU, we might have to sacrifice them too in a Russian thermonuclear standoff. I don't like it, and I would probably have to cry myself to sleep for an entire week, but our military and intelligence agency staff understands that in war sacrifices need to be made. It breaks my heart, but Russia needs to be stopped. So does China even if they are not a threat. Doesn't matter. Empire of Liberty baby. Stronium 90 from Sea to Shining Sea.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:55 pmA war with Russia would be a Warm War.
Not a full on Hot War, something in between.
It wouldn't be as high intensity and fast paced as the World War Three template
It would be a hybrid war.
They would not mass their forces in a blitzkrieg to be destroyed in a hail of precision guided weapons.
They would strike from the shadows while using the threat of their nuclear weapons to shield that.
This war is already in progress, it's just nascent at this juncture.
It's like they pop nerve gas in the UK : what you gonna do about it ? What can you do ?
It would be like that, on a much larger scale.
They have the survivable second strike deterrent, retaliating against them directly is not an option.
You want to get into nuclear brinkmanship with them ? Who in the West has the stomach for that ?
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
Except Europe is not actually between America and Russiaheydaralon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:20 pmIf we have to sacrifice the entire EU to preserve American liberty, then that is what needs to be done by our leaders. Even though the UK is no longer part of the EU, we might have to sacrifice them too in a Russian thermonuclear standoff. I don't like it, and I would probably have to cry myself to sleep for an entire week, but our military and intelligence agency staff understands that in war sacrifices need to be made. It breaks my heart, but Russia needs to be stopped. So does China even if they are not a threat. Doesn't matter. Empire of Liberty baby. Stronium 90 from Sea to Shining Sea.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:55 pmA war with Russia would be a Warm War.
Not a full on Hot War, something in between.
It wouldn't be as high intensity and fast paced as the World War Three template
It would be a hybrid war.
They would not mass their forces in a blitzkrieg to be destroyed in a hail of precision guided weapons.
They would strike from the shadows while using the threat of their nuclear weapons to shield that.
This war is already in progress, it's just nascent at this juncture.
It's like they pop nerve gas in the UK : what you gonna do about it ? What can you do ?
It would be like that, on a much larger scale.
They have the survivable second strike deterrent, retaliating against them directly is not an option.
You want to get into nuclear brinkmanship with them ? Who in the West has the stomach for that ?
America and Russia face each other over the pole.
Like I say, it won't be a tactical war in Europe, it will be a strategic war on the high seas and under the arctic ice
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
Well then we can still try and covertly nuke China right? Look man, i don't make policy or whatever, but when a country like China gets uppity, its America's duty to stomp there ass back down into whatever rathole they crawled out of. The main strategic goals of America should be:Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:29 pmExcept Europe is not actually between America and Russiaheydaralon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:20 pmIf we have to sacrifice the entire EU to preserve American liberty, then that is what needs to be done by our leaders. Even though the UK is no longer part of the EU, we might have to sacrifice them too in a Russian thermonuclear standoff. I don't like it, and I would probably have to cry myself to sleep for an entire week, but our military and intelligence agency staff understands that in war sacrifices need to be made. It breaks my heart, but Russia needs to be stopped. So does China even if they are not a threat. Doesn't matter. Empire of Liberty baby. Stronium 90 from Sea to Shining Sea.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:55 pmA war with Russia would be a Warm War.
Not a full on Hot War, something in between.
It wouldn't be as high intensity and fast paced as the World War Three template
It would be a hybrid war.
They would not mass their forces in a blitzkrieg to be destroyed in a hail of precision guided weapons.
They would strike from the shadows while using the threat of their nuclear weapons to shield that.
This war is already in progress, it's just nascent at this juncture.
It's like they pop nerve gas in the UK : what you gonna do about it ? What can you do ?
It would be like that, on a much larger scale.
They have the survivable second strike deterrent, retaliating against them directly is not an option.
You want to get into nuclear brinkmanship with them ? Who in the West has the stomach for that ?
America and Russia face each other over the pole.
Like I say, it won't be a tactical war in Europe, it will be a strategic war on the high seas and under the arctic ice
1) To Nuke Russia
2) To Nuke China
3) To pawn that shit off on Europe and make it seem like they did it, not us.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
I agree with Nuke China, Nuke Russia, but I don't want the Europeans getting any credit for it.heydaralon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:35 pmWell then we can still try and covertly nuke China right? Look man, i don't make policy or whatever, but when a country like China gets uppity, its America's duty to stomp there ass back down into whatever rathole they crawled out of. The main strategic goals of America should be:Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:29 pmExcept Europe is not actually between America and Russiaheydaralon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:20 pm
If we have to sacrifice the entire EU to preserve American liberty, then that is what needs to be done by our leaders. Even though the UK is no longer part of the EU, we might have to sacrifice them too in a Russian thermonuclear standoff. I don't like it, and I would probably have to cry myself to sleep for an entire week, but our military and intelligence agency staff understands that in war sacrifices need to be made. It breaks my heart, but Russia needs to be stopped. So does China even if they are not a threat. Doesn't matter. Empire of Liberty baby. Stronium 90 from Sea to Shining Sea.
America and Russia face each other over the pole.
Like I say, it won't be a tactical war in Europe, it will be a strategic war on the high seas and under the arctic ice
1) To Nuke Russia
2) To Nuke China
3) To pawn that shit off on Europe and make it seem like they did it, not us.
Smitty LeMay gonna nuke that shit as a badge of honor.
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There were about 2.5 Million gun purchases in March. Panic buying is going on everywhere.
Several states, counties and municipalities attempted to shutdown gun stores. DJT answered by declaring gun stores essential. I don't think we'll run out of guns anytime soon, but ammo could be a problem. For the first time ever, Midway USA is out of common rounds.
Several states, counties and municipalities attempted to shutdown gun stores. DJT answered by declaring gun stores essential. I don't think we'll run out of guns anytime soon, but ammo could be a problem. For the first time ever, Midway USA is out of common rounds.
March was a very bad month for Gun Grabbers.“The figures are simply eye-popping. Retailers have been telling us that the overwhelming majority of those buying firearms over the last month have been first-time gun owners,” said Olivia of last month’s data. “This puts to rest America’s thoughts on gun control ideas. Americans across the country chose to exercise their right to lawfully purchase a gun when their safety became more than a rhetorical question.” https://www.guns.com/news/2020/04/02/ni ... -for-march
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Good. One of the upsides to this whole ordeal. Most of those goofs are just learning about all the hoops that exist in buying a firearm. "Oh, I can't just take this home right now??" The fallout is going to be epic.
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We've average a million gun sales a month since 2012
It's crazy.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes
No such problem in Ohio. Just sign and drive.
I’d actually be happier if it required some kind of training, tbh.