So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

[StCapps]

what else has the united states done to escalate tensions against iran?

They elected the Bad Orange Man, and he came along and ruined a clearly failing strategy that Monte refuses to believe failed, because the media he consumes told him it was working and Trump was to blame for screwing it all up. He thinks they aren't biased because they are foreign sources, because he's a complete dunce and doesn't realize even the British media was completely in the bag for Obama, and are his PR firm for idiotic foreign policy decisions, while simultaneously hate Trump and look to spin everything he does into a negative. Because their bias matches his own, he thinks they are unbiased, and thus he thinks all the "unbiased" people are saying the same thing he agrees with, so it must be the truth.

[pineapplemike]

well thats definitely a dishonest answer. noted

[StCapps]

All Monte's answers in this thread are dishonest concern trolling, so he gets what he deserves.

[Montegriffo]

or you side with Iran against Trump.

Every time someone brings up it being Iran's fault, you just crow about how it's Trump's fault, and Iran did what they did because of Trump. You aren't fooling anyone Monte, except yourself.

The current round of escalation started with the withdrawal from the nuclear deal.
Iran is clearly a rogue nation and Trump is a rogue leader both share the blame for escalating tensions.
When Gibraltar seized an Iranian tanker it was as a result of EU sanctions against Syria everyone called it piracy.
When Iran seized a British flagged tanker in retaliation everyone called it justified. Who was siding with Iran there?

[pineapplemike]

All Monte's answers in this thread are dishonest concern trolling, so he gets what he deserves.

so youre on the same level as monte. got it

[StCapps]

The current round of escalation started with the withdrawal from the nuclear deal.

No it did not. The current round of escalation started well before the withdrawal, and incited the withdrawal. Iran proved to be untrustworthy, and all hopes of them behaving themselves if America just appeased them with the Iran Deal were pipe dreams. You just refuse to admit that the deal failed, and that Iran wasn't behaving themselves just because Obama thought they would when he signed the deal, like the naive sucker that he is. Stop peddling the myth that Iran was finally minding it's own business when Trump pulled out of the deal that made them act that way, that is just completely false and complete media propaganda to defend their boy Obama.

Iran lied, Obama was a misguided fool who took them at their word and got burned, just admit it. Stop blaming Trump for Obama's failures.

[Montegriffo]

The current round of escalation started with the withdrawal from the nuclear deal.

No it did not. The current round of escalation started well before the withdrawal, and incited the withdrawal. Iran proved to be untrustworthy, and all hopes of them behaving themselves if America just appeased them with the Iran Deal were pipe dreams. You just refuse to admit that the deal failed, and that Iran wasn't behaving themselves just because Obama thought they would when he signed the deal, like the naive sucker that he is.

According to international observers, the deal was working and limits on enriching uranium were being complied with.
Now inspectors are being refused entry to military sites and Iran has stated that it will ramp up enrichment if sanctions applied since Trump pulled out of the deal are not lifted.

[StCapps]

The current round of escalation started with the withdrawal from the nuclear deal.

No it did not. The current round of escalation started well before the withdrawal, and incited the withdrawal. Iran proved to be untrustworthy, and all hopes of them behaving themselves if America just appeased them with the Iran Deal were pipe dreams. You just refuse to admit that the deal failed, and that Iran wasn't behaving themselves just because Obama thought they would when he signed the deal, like the naive sucker that he is.

According to international observers, the deal was working and limits on enriching uranium were being complied with.
Now inspectors are being refused entry to military sites and Iran has stated that it will ramp up enrichment if sanctions applied since Trump pulled out of the deal are not lifted.

They used to money to fund their regional terror network, that's called an epic fail. They didn't moderate and play nice, they took the money and doubled down on provocative regional activity. So they didn't enrich uranium while they bided their time developing the technology to do so, still an epic fail that was set to expire in 2023 anyway, and then they'd just ramp the nuclear program back up bigger and badder than ever at that point.

A 10 year pause so they can solidify their position, while escalating things in the region all the while, using American bribes to do so. Iran was not behaving itself during the deal, nor was it going to behave itself after the deal, fail city.

You are so dumb, you are really dumb, for real.

[Montegriffo]

No it did not. The current round of escalation started well before the withdrawal, and incited the withdrawal. Iran proved to be untrustworthy, and all hopes of them behaving themselves if America just appeased them with the Iran Deal were pipe dreams. You just refuse to admit that the deal failed, and that Iran wasn't behaving themselves just because Obama thought they would when he signed the deal, like the naive sucker that he is.

According to international observers, the deal was working and limits on enriching uranium were being complied with.
Now inspectors are being refused entry to military sites and Iran has stated that it will ramp up enrichment if sanctions applied since Trump pulled out of the deal are not lifted.

They used to money to fund their regional terror network, that's called an epic fail. They didn't moderate and play nice, they took the money and doubled down on provocative regional activity. So they didn't enrich uranium while they bided their time developing the technology to do so, still an epic fail that was set to expire in 2023 anyway, and then they'd just ramp the nuclear program back up bigger and badder than ever at that point.

A 10 year pause so they can solidify their position, while escalating things in the region all the while, using American bribes to do so. Iran was not behaving itself during the deal, nor was it going to behave itself after the deal, fail city.

You are so dumb, you are really dumb, for real.

So wrecking their economy, assassinating their generals and threatening war crimes is going to make things safer in the region?
Do you think sanctions are going to hit ordinary Iranians or funding for attacks against the west hardest?
Why do you support a man who invited the Taliban to New York for negotiations in the same week as the 9/11 anniversary but refuses to negotiate with Iran?

You just really like that salty taste don't you?

[StCapps]

So wrecking their economy, assassinating their generals and threatening war crimes is going to make things safer in the region?

Yes. Deterrence > Appeasement

Do you think sanctions are going to hit ordinary Iranians or funding for attacks against the west hardest?

Funding for attacks against the west, as they are a luxury, that they can spend more on when they have more money instead of less, and that is born out by the funding increasing after sanctions were lifted than when sanctions were in place. Collateral damage will happen, and hit ordinary Iranians as well, but the terrorist attacks will take a bigger hit. The Iranian Nuclear Deal allowed Iran to increase the terrorist network funding significantly, and they did. Those are the facts, it's not just a theory, that's what happened.

Why do you support a man who invited the Taliban to New York for negotiations in the same week as the 9/11 anniversary but refuses to negotiate with Iran[/quote]*yip*