So Trump ordered General Soleimani Assassinated, and now people are crying for WWIII....

[StCapps]

If you won't accept that escalating tensions are on Iran and not Trump, then you have TDS.

Yeah, well when your idea of "escalation" equals "having a miniscule ability to defend themselves and NOT rolling over like dogs because of cripping economic sanctions", sure... Iran has been "escalating" tensions in the region.

It's not Trump's that done the escalation, however. Started before his term. It's Saudi Arabia, and Israel under Netanyahu (who needs foreign monsters to scare the public with so they don't bust him for his corruption and bribery crimes) who want to increase power in the region.

My idea of escalation is attacking Saudi oil fields and attacking US embassies, among many other things. You're clearly not playing attention if you blame America for it, or you have America Derangement Syndrome.

Iran is nowhere near innocent, so enough of this Iran sympathizing, you Euro Faggots. America lets far more Iranian bullshit slide than the Iranian's let America's bullshit slide, the Iranian are the one's escalating. America hasn't just employed sanctions for the fuck of it, they did it in retaliation to Iranian escalation in the region.

Eisenhower isn't POTUS anymore, stop pretending it's the fucking 1950's. Mossadegh wasn't overthrown yesterday.

Y'all need to get with the times, Iran is doing the escalating now, America is not to blame for everything, ya chooches.

[BjornP]

My idea of escalation is attacking Saudi oil fields and attacking US embassies, among many other things. You're clearly not playing attention if you blame America for it, or you have America Derangement Syndrome.

Iran is nowhere near innocent, so enough of this Iran sympathizing, you Euro Faggots.

I nowhere said Iran is "innocent". Just that they're not the one's escalating the conflict in the region. They're just reacting to the power balance in the region tipping way too far into Saudi Arabia's (and less so Israel's) favor. Saudi Arabia had been trying to influence the religious and political landscape in the region for decades, so a tiny bit of pushback is only to be expected. Not being satisfied with lying ass up and just taking whatever your enemies want to ram up your ass, isn't an "escalation". On their part, anyway.

And I do sympathize with countries who don't let themselves get treated like bitches. We can't all find pleasure in hating our own cultures and countries, and wanting to please the interests of foreign countries over our own, Wannabe-American Faggot. The Saudis... I'd love to see that whole dynasty, all the noble families, all the clerics... burned alive, and the land turned over to whomever wishes to take over. As far as religious zealots go, Shia islam has kept its religious terrorism and zealotry away from Western countries. For that alone, Iran are the obviously better partner for Europe and any other Western country wanting to kill off islamic terrorism. Trump should direct the entire US military into Saudi Arabia, grab all the oil barrels, ship 'em home, and install permanent US bases around the oil fields in return for support of a kind of Sunni government that doesn't preach the same sort of Salafist or Muslim Brotherhood-type of bullshit that led to the rise of international islamic terrorism. Win-win for everyone who should matter.

[StCapps]

My idea of escalation is attacking Saudi oil fields and attacking US embassies, among many other things. You're clearly not playing attention if you blame America for it, or you have America Derangement Syndrome.

Iran is nowhere near innocent, so enough of this Iran sympathizing, you Euro Faggots.

I nowhere said Iran is "innocent". Just that they're not the one's escalating the conflict in the region.

In either case, you're wrong.

[BjornP]

NO U.

[StCapps]

If the House of Saud falls, that would only incite more terrorism in the region. Not less. You want ISIS in charge of Saudi Arabia? Just try a little regime change. If the Mullah's fall, terrorists are much less likely to take over. "Invade Saudi Arabia, and Let Iran Do What It Wants" is some stupid shit, really stupid shit. Iran are not a better ally for America, especially when it comes to killing off Islamic terrorism, that's some bullshit.

[BjornP]

If the House of Saud falls, that would only incite more terrorism in the region. Not less. You want ISIS in charge of Saudi Arabia? Just try a little regime change. If the Mullah's fall, terrorists are much less likely to take over. Invade Saudi Arabia, leave Iran alone is some stupid shit, really stupid shit.

If the House of Saud falls by US hands, the US will control who gets to sit in power. Just fabricate some story of how the Saud's "stabbed the US in the back" and they're good to go. Doesn't matter if it's belieavable - the Bush governments and their allies fed the people with loads of "we're bringing freedom to the Iraqis" or "they got WMD's" bullshit, and no one bought it, and no one needs to.

Hell, they could keep making up bullshit about Iran "escalating" shit, similarly to how a bully might ask why his victim keeps "hitting himself", and.... well, as long the US ain't working in Saudi interests, that's fine. It would still be total bullshit, but at least the bullshit isn't about propping up the sorts of people who are to Islamic terrorism, what the Soviet Union used to be to Communists.

[StCapps]

If the House of Saud falls by US hands, the US will control who gets to sit in power.

Temporarily, then ISIS will overthrow them, when America realizes holding Saudi Arabia is nowhere near worth it, nation building for the fail again. In the meantime, America gets bogged down in the middle east, which is fucking stupid and will cost many more lives. Your entire suggestion is asinine, in so many different ways, just shut up Denmark, before you dig the hole any deeper with your stupidity and ignorance.

[BjornP]

If the House of Saud falls by US hands, the US will control who gets to sit in power.

Temporarily, then ISIS will overthrow them. In the meantime, America gets bogged down in the middle east, which is fucking stupid and will cost many more lives.

Meh, in that case, high time Israel did something for the bucks it gets from the US. Time some of them fought for that money, ain't it? Or, more seriously, the many other ME countries that recieve US military funding owe the US favors, and like always they'd be able to find the same guarenteed, no-questions asked European allies that they'll get no matter the mission (UK, Poland, Italy, Denmark).

[StCapps]

If the House of Saud falls by US hands, the US will control who gets to sit in power.

Temporarily, then ISIS will overthrow them. In the meantime, America gets bogged down in the middle east, which is fucking stupid and will cost many more lives.

Meh, in that case, high time Israel did something for the bucks it gets from the US. Time some of them fought for that money, ain't it? Or, more seriously, the many other ME countries that recieve US military funding owe the US favors, and like always they'd be able to find the same guarenteed, no-questions asked European allies that they'll get no matter the mission (UK, Poland, Italy, Denmark).

America could just stop giving them foreign aid. Israel or some other ally overthrowing the House of Saud isn't going to go any better than the US doing it. Just drop the Saudi Arabia invasion plans, any invasion you can conceive is just going to backfire epically.

NOT A GOOD IDEA.

[Montegriffo]

If you won't accept that escalating tensions are on Iran and Trump, then you have TDS.

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