Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by clubgop » Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:13 pm

The Conservative wrote:
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clubgop wrote:
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Checks and balances are, of course, essential to securing that government doesn't turn tyrannical, but instead of the legislative branch voting on guilt or innocence, it just seems smarter to let the judicial branch be the one to make that decision. All other things considered, they are at least meant to be less partisan than party politics. From a democratic standpoint, I can see the reasoning, and you're guarenteed a better representation of the people's will by letting elected representatives vote on impeachment. Which is why I think I understand why a 5-4 SC decision would lead to more of a war than a 60% vs 40% vote in Congress. Is it because the people would feel more betrayed by what's essentially the highest, legal authority in the land declaring their vote and say invalid?
Well yes but remember federal judges can be impeached also. It makes little to no sense for the judicial branch to hold such power. Also if a person is ever removed and charged with a crime they have to go through the judicial system. That's too much power. To remove a President and hold his fate as a citizen, one or the other, not both.

Impeachment isn't a legal proceeding, oh sure they try to give it that veener but it is a political one. I need and want the Supreme court as far removed from politics as I can get it.
The problem with federal judges separated from politics as far as possible, is it's impossible.

Unless you create a Judge Dredd, every human has a bias. Political or otherwise.
I said as far as possible. That's why you don't put them in that position.

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:47 am

clubgop wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:13 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:02 am
clubgop wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:07 am


Well yes but remember federal judges can be impeached also. It makes little to no sense for the judicial branch to hold such power. Also if a person is ever removed and charged with a crime they have to go through the judicial system. That's too much power. To remove a President and hold his fate as a citizen, one or the other, not both.

Impeachment isn't a legal proceeding, oh sure they try to give it that veener but it is a political one. I need and want the Supreme court as far removed from politics as I can get it.
The problem with federal judges separated from politics as far as possible, is it's impossible.

Unless you create a Judge Dredd, every human has a bias. Political or otherwise.
I said as far as possible. That's why you don't put them in that position.
Of course it would be nice to have SCOTUS removed as far from politics as possible, the problem is that to extent that is possible, is disappointing. Judges going to be biased as fuck, pining for a non-political SCOTUS will just lead to disappointment.

Just win baby, if it's going to be a weapon, which it is, you best learn how to use it. Cocaine Mitch knows.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:01 am

Statistically speaking, 66% of impeached American President's, were impeached for humiliating Hillary Clinton.

Sometimes stats are fun.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:45 am

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For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:51 am

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For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by The Conservative » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:54 am

Montegriffo wrote:
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Did they write articles saying Obama should be impeached within minutes of him being elected president? Did the Republicans vote to impeach Obama weeks after he was elected? And Hillary he made her own fucking bed. She deserves with Biden to be in prison.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:59 am

The Conservative wrote:
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What about...
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:11 am

When it comes to impeachment, Trump has been more unfairly treated than any POTUS. Trump has obviously been unfairly treated in general, and more so than the vast majority of Presidents. So enough of the pretending it's a joke to even mention being treated unfairly.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by The Conservative » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:19 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:59 am
The Conservative wrote:
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What about...
Go back to your own country and shag a sheep.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:31 am

StCapps wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:11 am
When it comes to impeachment, Trump has been more unfairly treated than any POTUS. Trump has obviously been unfairly treated in general, and more so than the vast majority of Presidents. So enough of the pretending it's a joke to even mention being treated unfairly.
I want to see the old kraut's birth certificate.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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