Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:30 am

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Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:30 am
Since you got a national inferiority complex, Capps, you can just call me Master Denmark. Since they're the ones you feel most inferior to, you should probably address the Americans as Lord High Master. ;)
America is The Light Of Civilization, The Shining City Upon A Hill.

Fuck Denmark, God Bless America.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:17 am

StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:30 am
America is The Light Of Civilization, The Shining City Upon A Hill.

Fuck Denmark, God Bless America.
They do make some nice products and they got a couple of good people over there. But to me, it's just too pathetic to put some foreign culture that high up on a pedestal.

Do you honestly want to become a US citizen, wish Canada was annexed by the US, or "merely" that Canada simply adopted more American culture and practises? IIRC, you're also (still?) a republican (as in anti-monarchist), right?
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:27 am

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:17 am
StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:30 am
America is The Light Of Civilization, The Shining City Upon A Hill.

Fuck Denmark, God Bless America.
They do make some nice products and they got a couple of good people over there. But to me, it's just too pathetic to put some foreign culture that high up on a pedestal.

Do you honestly want to become a US citizen, wish Canada was annexed by the US, or "merely" that Canada simply adopted more American culture and practises? IIRC, you're also (still?) a republican (as in anti-monarchist), right?
America should be put on a pedestal, Fake Country Canada shouldn't exist. There is no greater defender of The Crown than the American Republic, long live both.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:45 am

Ok, Mini-Smitty. :D
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:46 am

lol

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:38 pm

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by clubgop » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:05 pm

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:22 am
If impeachment was a serious thing, it should be the courts not the government deciding whether government is guilty of a crime or not. Don't want partisanship to play a part in impeachment? Make partisanship irrelevant by taking the decision from them and placing it with the Supreme Court (and possibly some legal reps from each state, I guess).
No, checks and balances. Impeachment is the method for Congress of checking the other two branches. Partisanship will play a part and always will. That's why removal requires a 2/3 vote. A 5-4 Supreme Court decision to remove a president would make for a war.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by clubgop » Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:16 pm

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:15 am
StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:14 am
Shit stain Denmark looks down it's nose at America and thinks they are above that partisan thing, that's only an American problem.

What a bunch of Milquetoast Fence Sitting Jelly Fish.


I hate these Filthy Fake Neutrals. Undercover Hack Bitches sicken me.
Your cluelessness is sticking out, Capps. Denmark ain't neutral. NATO since the beginning. Oh, and I don't "look down my nose at America". Its flaws are discussed pretty openly in this forum whenever people come by and unless you're gonna disagree with every single American here who has criticized some aspect of his country, you probably also "looked down your nose at" America. I don't feel any reason to look down at or belittle my own country to score points with anyone. I unapologetically love my country and culture and think it's the best in the world. Just like the Americans think theirs is best in the world.
Me and you we've had our differences. Our knockdowns and dragouts. But I hope you know I always liked and respected you and never knew why. Now I know. Good on you, I don't fault you for it.

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:21 pm

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:15 am
Your cluelessness is sticking out, Capps. Denmark ain't neutral. NATO since the beginning. Oh, and I don't "look down my nose at America". Its flaws are discussed pretty openly in this forum whenever people come by and unless you're gonna disagree with every single American here who has criticized some aspect of his country, you probably also "looked down your nose at" America. I don't feel any reason to look down at or belittle my own country to score points with anyone. I unapologetically love my country and culture and think it's the best in the world. Just like the Americans think theirs is best in the world.
I don't belittle Canada to score points with anyone, I do it because it deserves to be belittled. Just because you were born in a country doesn't make it the best country. Canada erased it's culture and filled the vacuum with a "Post-National State", it's a fake country that is holding everyone in it back. It's the silliest country on earth and I wash my hands of it. There is no reason to believe Canada is the best country in the world, unless you limit the criteria to hockey.

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:40 am

clubgop wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:05 pm

No, checks and balances. Impeachment is the method for Congress of checking the other two branches. Partisanship will play a part and always will. That's why removal requires a 2/3 vote. A 5-4 Supreme Court decision to remove a president would make for a war.
Checks and balances are, of course, essential to securing that government doesn't turn tyrannical, but instead of the legislative branch voting on guilt or innocence, it just seems smarter to let the judicial branch be the one to make that decision. All other things considered, they are at least meant to be less partisan than party politics. From a democratic standpoint, I can see the reasoning, and you're guarenteed a better representation of the people's will by letting elected representatives vote on impeachment. Which is why I think I understand why a 5-4 SC decision would lead to more of a war than a 60% vs 40% vote in Congress. Is it because the people would feel more betrayed by what's essentially the highest, legal authority in the land declaring their vote and say invalid?
Me and you we've had our differences. Our knockdowns and dragouts. But I hope you know I always liked and respected you and never knew why. Now I know. Good on you, I don't fault you for it.
Thanks, man.

Capps:
Canada erased it's culture and filled the vacuum with a "Post-National State", it's a fake country that is holding everyone in it back. It's the silliest country on earth and I wash my hands of it. There is no reason to believe Canada is the best country in the world, unless you limit the criteria to hockey.
It's your home, Capps. You're what, in your early 30's, late 20's by now? The cultural and ideological fads and fashions that you despise about Canada, won't last forever. We had our dominant PC culture phase in the 90's here. It got replaced by somewhat of a large tilt (by past Danish standards, anyway) to the right with the big election wins to the nationalist party, DPP, but then people got used to the DPP, they became part of everyday politics. They completely changed the Overton window, and now the Social Democrats are more hardline on immigration like its past core voters wanted them to be. The DPP lost around half its seats at the last election.

Took around two decades to change the political culture, to change how one discussed honestly the problems of immigration and integration without getting "racist" smacked automatically in one's face. Sure, there are still people and parties where they'll do that, but they're not the majority. The US is a great ally to have for Canada, no doubt, but they're not really the one's who should help you overcome your "post-national state" culture. Not saying you personally, should neccesarily be the one to change it, but you shouldn't also pretend to yourself that changing the status quo is somehow impossible. After all, those post-national guys did it. To quote Bobbi from the Expanse series of books: "Anything you can do, I can do better".

You might only be done helping to change Canada in three decades, Capps, but just think about it... in three decades time (if you haven't already), you could also have a marvellous gray streak in your hair and an air of elderly authority. ;)
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