Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:03 am

StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:37 am
The TDS crowd are feigning that they are serious, sober, somber and sad about this whole impeachment, but really they are just butthurt they lost the election and putting on a facade. The only people they are fooling are themselves though, everyone else can see through the charade.
A little data that would seems to back up the notion that they won't really win anything by this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1YN2LH
Overall, only 44% of the American public said they approved of the House’s handling of Trump’s impeachment, while 41% disapproved.

And when asked how the impeachment left them feeling about the president, 26% said they are more supportive of Trump now, while 20% said they are less supportive, and 48% it has not changed their view one way or the other.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by The Conservative » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:06 am

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:13 am
Hastur wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:58 am
They truly have painted themselves into a corner with this shit show but Orange Man Bad is all they have now. They have gone all-in on this idea. There is no way back. They can't turn around now and suddenly start working with him and actually do some of the work they were elected to do. There are 318 days left to the election and I predict we will have wall to wall TDS media output till then.
If by "we" in the last sentence you mean the MHF, then probably. But I expect even more Trump sycophanting and "whataboutism" by Trump supporters, about whatever charges and accusations levied at Trump by Democrats. Pretending that any side of this foreign, retarded clown show gives two shits about such basic concepts as "evidence" is asking for much too much. When I scrolled through to your video of something about Pelosi, my reaction (without watching the video) was just: "Oh, another lie in the Democrat/Republican war. Leftist People Bad".

Doesn't matter if it's really true... it's becomes irrelevant by default because the Left and Right sides of the impeachment bullshit are posting it. Evidence doesn't matter for either side. It's all meant to be whataboutism or guilt by association, ergo... nothing anyone should take seriously. The same reason no one should take accusations against Trump seriously, is the same reason no one should take accusations against his accusers seriously.
I have to disagree. Impeachment is a serious thing, which is why until this one each impeachment had at least a large population of the other side to agree to impeachment.

There are reasons why Pelosi isn’t going to move this to the Senate it’s not because of a fear of a fair trial not happening, but because it will be called out for what it is, a farce.

There is no excuse for this to go as it has.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:14 am

The Conservative wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:06 am
Impeachment is a serious thing, it will be called out for what it is, a farce.
Make up your mind.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:22 am

If impeachment was a serious thing, it should be the courts not the government deciding whether government is guilty of a crime or not. Don't want partisanship to play a part in impeachment? Make partisanship irrelevant by taking the decision from them and placing it with the Supreme Court (and possibly some legal reps from each state, I guess).
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:26 am

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:22 am
If impeachment was a serious thing, it should be the courts not the government deciding whether government is guilty of a crime or not. Don't want partisanship to play a part in impeachment? Make partisanship irrelevant by taking the decision from them and placing it with the Supreme Court (and possibly some legal reps from each state, I guess).
Yeah because partisanship would be irrelevant if the Supreme Court decides.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:32 am

StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:26 am
BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:22 am
If impeachment was a serious thing, it should be the courts not the government deciding whether government is guilty of a crime or not. Don't want partisanship to play a part in impeachment? Make partisanship irrelevant by taking the decision from them and placing it with the Supreme Court (and possibly some legal reps from each state, I guess).
Yeah because partisanship would be irrelevant if the Supreme Court decides.
:roll:
Partisanship as in being partisan members or supporters of the two political parties. If you can't expect a rejection of even that, then might as well just burn everything to the ground. No point in it continuing to exist as a country.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:35 am

BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:32 am
StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:26 am
BjornP wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:22 am
If impeachment was a serious thing, it should be the courts not the government deciding whether government is guilty of a crime or not. Don't want partisanship to play a part in impeachment? Make partisanship irrelevant by taking the decision from them and placing it with the Supreme Court (and possibly some legal reps from each state, I guess).
Yeah because partisanship would be irrelevant if the Supreme Court decides.
:roll:
Partisanship as in being partisan members or supporters of the two political parties. If you can't expect even that, then might as well just burn everything to the ground. No point in it continuing to exist as a country.
SCOTUS judges are partisan as fuck, pretending it can be any other way is naive and ridiculous, as is the assertion that if it isn't possible there is no reason for a country to exist. By your standard, no country should exist anywhere in the world, grow up noob.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by BjornP » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:51 am

StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:35 am
SCOTUS judges are partisan as fuck, pretending it can be any other way is naive and ridiculous, as is the assertion that if it isn't possible there is no reason for a country to exist. By your standard, no country should exist anywhere in the world, grow up noob.
Biased or partisan? No reason to give a shit if they're just biased. Everyone is, and that's no problem. The problem of them being political appointees is maybe going to let newly appointed judges partisan, but why should older appointees, appointed by two-or-more terms past presidents give a crap about supporting one party or the other?

And you are ridiculously Americano-centric. You have extremely low expectations of everything because you think the US is the highest any country can aspire to in every aspect and regard, and that American values, American culture, American history are somehow universal. You're the one who needs to grow up and see the real world. Are things "perfect" in other countries? Nope. But pretending that politics is as shitty everywhere as in the US (especially when they keep saying so themselves)? Dude, that's not you being a "realist" if that's what you like to think of yourself as. You're like a slowly boiling frog who keeps going: "Yeah, this is normal". Only because you judge everything by American standards...but I guess the only thing that makes you Canadian is that you watch hockey.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by The Conservative » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:03 am

StCapps wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:14 am
The Conservative wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:06 am
Impeachment is a serious thing, it will be called out for what it is, a farce.
Make up your mind.
Impeachment is a serious thing. The Democrats have made a farce.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Hastur » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:04 am

The Impeachment process is written into the constitution. It won't be changed soon. I guess it was intended to prevent presidents from making themselves kings. Placing that responsibility on the Senate makes sense. After all the SCOTUS members are appointed by the president.
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