UK election

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Re: UK election

Post by Otern » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:17 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:06 pm
Otern wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:18 pm
Brexit! What a great time to be alive.
What does Brexit do for Norway?
Why do you care so much about it?
A weakened EU means a stronger Norway.

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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:20 pm

Otern wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:17 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:06 pm
Otern wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:18 pm
Brexit! What a great time to be alive.
What does Brexit do for Norway?
Why do you care so much about it?
A weakened EU means a stronger Norway.
Financially weakened maybe but with Britain out of the way the federalists can push their agenda harder.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK election

Post by Otern » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:26 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:20 pm
Financially weakened maybe but with Britain out of the way the federalists can push their agenda harder.
And then Poland, Italy, Spain and Greece leaves too. The EU is falling apart, and I love it.

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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:34 pm

Otern wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:26 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:20 pm
Financially weakened maybe but with Britain out of the way the federalists can push their agenda harder.
And then Poland, Italy, Spain and Greece leaves too. The EU is falling apart, and I love it.
Unlikely since they are all net financial beneficiaries of the EU.
Shedding the PIGS will only make the EU stronger anyway.
This isn't going to kill off the EU.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:40 pm

At least we get rid of Corbyn and Farage now.
Hopefully Labour will move back to the centre.
Corbyn's 1980's socialism has lost two General Elections now. They have to realise that tax and spend isn't going to win and all the crazy nuclear disarmament and re-nationalisation of industry has to go.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK election

Post by Otern » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:42 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:34 pm
Unlikely since they are all net financial beneficiaries of the EU.
Shedding the PIGS will only make the EU stronger anyway.
This isn't going to kill off the EU.
It's not about money. Also, who's the financial beneficiaries of the EU, depends on how you see it. It was German banks being bailed out in Greece, not the average Greek citizen. The Greeks have been pushed even further down.

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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:52 pm

Otern wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:42 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:34 pm
Unlikely since they are all net financial beneficiaries of the EU.
Shedding the PIGS will only make the EU stronger anyway.
This isn't going to kill off the EU.
It's not about money. Also, who's the financial beneficiaries of the EU, depends on how you see it. It was German banks being bailed out in Greece, not the average Greek citizen. The Greeks have been pushed even further down.
The Greeks were staring down the barrel of bankruptcy and being kicked out of the EU.
They are financial beneficiaries of the EU. They even had the opportunity to leave but they didn't.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK election

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:46 pm

I had no dog in this race. In fact, I tend to side with Monte on all things UK because that’s his country, though I did live there for a while. It looks like the my-team-vs-your-team paradigm was broken, which I didn’t think was possible. This gives me hope Trump will win big and take the House in the U.S., though I am not a Republican.

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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:36 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:46 pm
I had no dog in this race. In fact, I tend to side with Monte on all things UK because that’s his country, though I did live there for a while. It looks like the my-team-vs-your-team paradigm was broken, which I didn’t think was possible. This gives me hope Trump will win big and take the House in the U.S., though I am not a Republican.

Marxists almost won this war of subterfuge; at least now we’re fighting back.
You can't overestimate how bad Corbyn was for Labour. He never had the full support of his MPs. He was voted in by the grassroots Labour Party members.
They're ripe for a good shakeup.
I'm just disappointed at the Lib Dems performance, they might need a new leader too.
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Re: UK election

Post by clubgop » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:34 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:36 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:46 pm
I had no dog in this race. In fact, I tend to side with Monte on all things UK because that’s his country, though I did live there for a while. It looks like the my-team-vs-your-team paradigm was broken, which I didn’t think was possible. This gives me hope Trump will win big and take the House in the U.S., though I am not a Republican.

Marxists almost won this war of subterfuge; at least now we’re fighting back.
You can't overestimate how bad Corbyn was for Labour. He never had the full support of his MPs. He was voted in by the grassroots Labour Party members.
They're ripe for a good shakeup.
I'm just disappointed at the Lib Dems performance, they might need a new leader too.
Brexit and Corbyn. A toxic brew for Labour. Don't count Corbyn out just yet, he most certainly should go but until he does I don't see it. You are going to hold on to that remain position no matter what. The Corbyn supporters will be just as obstinate.