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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:15 pm

I do. So does Smitty if I remember correctly.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:27 pm

Then tell me the pecking order.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:29 pm

Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:02 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:17 am
clubgop wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:57 am


That's great do you enjoy the abundant absorbancy of native American hair tampons?
Russia, Native Americans, Germans, Pick a culture.

Either way if you think this guy coined or gave credence to the wolf as an alpha, you are smoking some damned good stuff.
Who, then, coined the term alpha wolf?
I'm still waiting for your answer, TC. Dazzle me with your superior knowledge of wolf behaviour science history.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:30 pm

Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:29 pm
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:02 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:17 am


Russia, Native Americans, Germans, Pick a culture.

Either way if you think this guy coined or gave credence to the wolf as an alpha, you are smoking some damned good stuff.
Who, then, coined the term alpha wolf?
I'm still waiting for your answer, TC. Dazzle me with your superior knowledge of wolf behaviour science history.
Rudolph Shenkel. 1944
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:39 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:30 pm
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:29 pm
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:02 pm


Who, then, coined the term alpha wolf?
I'm still waiting for your answer, TC. Dazzle me with your superior knowledge of wolf behaviour science history.
Rudolph Shenkel. 1944
SYW.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:45 pm

Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:39 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:30 pm
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:29 pm


I'm still waiting for your answer, TC. Dazzle me with your superior knowledge of wolf behaviour science history.
Rudolph Shenkel. 1944
SYW.
https://www.mawer.com/the-art-of-boring ... lpha-wolf/

Also the study of Rudolph Shenkel's work is on Mech's on website translated, if you didn't just knee jerk your love for the man to prove someone wrong, you'd actually have found out the truth... hidden behind the ego.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:57 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:45 pm
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:39 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:30 pm


Rudolph Shenkel. 1944
SYW.
https://www.mawer.com/the-art-of-boring ... lpha-wolf/

Also the study of Rudolph Shenkel's work is on Mech's on website translated, if you didn't just knee jerk your love for the man to prove someone wrong, you'd actually have found out the truth... hidden behind the ego.
OK. So you found someone studying captive wolves. And your linked article is one that supports my claim that the alpha wolf is a myth.

There is an analogous theory about chicken. There are alpha chicken in captivity but not in the wild.

I remember an old TV series about a women's prison. There was a "top dog" there as well.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by The Conservative » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:08 pm

Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:57 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:45 pm
Hastur wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:39 pm


SYW.
https://www.mawer.com/the-art-of-boring ... lpha-wolf/

Also the study of Rudolph Shenkel's work is on Mech's on website translated, if you didn't just knee jerk your love for the man to prove someone wrong, you'd actually have found out the truth... hidden behind the ego.
OK. So you found someone studying captive wolves. And your linked article is one that supports my claim that the alpha wolf is a myth.

There is an analogous theory about chicken. There are alpha chicken in captivity but not in the wild.

I remember an old TV series about a women's prison. There was a "top dog" there as well.
Do you even... The original study was done on captive wolves in where Alpha Wolf came from. You asked, I showed.

Just because it doesn't create to wild wolves, who the fuck cares?

I showed you that you were wrong about who coined the term alpha wolf, and the person who claimed it didn't exist wasn't the one who coined it.

Want to move the goalposts. Go for it, but wild wolves as well as most group animals have a hierarchy.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

Post by Hastur » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:17 pm

But no alpha wolves.
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Re: Happy Birthday !

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