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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:41 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:38 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:14 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:13 am


With the poll tax, it did.
You said it yourself, everyone pays the same. The rich paying the same as the poor, is not the poor paying more taxes. Tax cuts for the rich is not raising taxes on the poor, that's not how it works.
They tried to replace a tax on each household with a tax on the individual weighted massively in favour of the rich.
A clear bribe of the electorate which failed spectacularly.

Besides,
no taxation without representation
It didn't favor the rich any more or less than it favored the poor. It was the same tax applied to all individuals. Lowering taxes on the rich does not hurt the poor, false dichotomy.

Everyone is represented regardless of the existence of a poll tax or not. Non-sequitur.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:50 am

It wasn't all bad, the outcome was John Major moving the party towards the center.

https://historylists.org/events/10-key- ... ation.html
1) Poll Tax

Very few leaders remain in power after pushing legislation that causes riots. The Poll Tax, otherwise known as the Community Charge taxed each home upon the number of adults living there. This was seen as an attempt to shift the burden from the rich to the poor because the tax ignored the property’s value and because low-income households typically have more adults. The public responded with mass protests that turned into riots. The tax was later repealed but the damage had already been done.
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:58 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:50 am
It wasn't all bad, the outcome was John Major moving the party towards the center.

https://historylists.org/events/10-key- ... ation.html
1) Poll Tax

Very few leaders remain in power after pushing legislation that causes riots. The Poll Tax, otherwise known as the Community Charge taxed each home upon the number of adults living there. This was seen as an attempt to shift the burden from the rich to the poor because the tax ignored the property’s value and because low-income households typically have more adults. The public responded with mass protests that turned into riots. The tax was later repealed but the damage had already been done.
The poll tax did not tax rich people more than poor people, it taxes the number of people living in each home, regardless of wealth. Rich and poor are taxed equally, it does not favor one or the other. People getting so upset at a flat tax that they riot, just goes to show how stupid the people in your nation are. With or without the poll tax, the rich still have more of the tax burden than the poor, trying to pretend like the poll tax changed that is asinine.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:12 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:58 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:50 am
It wasn't all bad, the outcome was John Major moving the party towards the center.

https://historylists.org/events/10-key- ... ation.html
1) Poll Tax

Very few leaders remain in power after pushing legislation that causes riots. The Poll Tax, otherwise known as the Community Charge taxed each home upon the number of adults living there. This was seen as an attempt to shift the burden from the rich to the poor because the tax ignored the property’s value and because low-income households typically have more adults. The public responded with mass protests that turned into riots. The tax was later repealed but the damage had already been done.
The poll tax did not tax rich people more than poor people, it taxes the number of people living in each home, regardless of wealth. Rich and poor are taxed equally, it does not favor one or the other. People getting so upset at a flat tax that they riot, just goes to show how stupid the people in your nation are. With or without the poll tax, the rich still have more of the tax burden than the poor, trying to pretend like the poll tax changed that is asinine.
The poll tax added a huge burden on the less well off while the rich had their burden reduced.
If injustice is not worth rioting for I don't know what is.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:36 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:12 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:58 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:50 am
It wasn't all bad, the outcome was John Major moving the party towards the center.

https://historylists.org/events/10-key- ... ation.html

The poll tax did not tax rich people more than poor people, it taxes the number of people living in each home, regardless of wealth. Rich and poor are taxed equally, it does not favor one or the other. People getting so upset at a flat tax that they riot, just goes to show how stupid the people in your nation are. With or without the poll tax, the rich still have more of the tax burden than the poor, trying to pretend like the poll tax changed that is asinine.
The poll tax added a huge burden on the less well off while the rich had their burden reduced.
If injustice is not worth rioting for I don't know what is.
You'd rather the poor were poorer, provided the rich were less rich. Fuck yo gap nigga. Maggie Knows.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:44 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:36 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:12 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:58 am
The poll tax did not tax rich people more than poor people, it taxes the number of people living in each home, regardless of wealth. Rich and poor are taxed equally, it does not favor one or the other. People getting so upset at a flat tax that they riot, just goes to show how stupid the people in your nation are. With or without the poll tax, the rich still have more of the tax burden than the poor, trying to pretend like the poll tax changed that is asinine.
The poll tax added a huge burden on the less well off while the rich had their burden reduced.
If injustice is not worth rioting for I don't know what is.
You'd rather the poor were poorer, provided the rich were less rich. Fuck yo gap nigga. Maggie Knows.
Do you ever have any original thoughts or is inappropriate quotes all you have?
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:47 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:44 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:36 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:12 am


The poll tax added a huge burden on the less well off while the rich had their burden reduced.
If injustice is not worth rioting for I don't know what is.
You'd rather the poor were poorer, provided the rich were less rich. Fuck yo gap nigga. Maggie Knows.
Do you ever have any original thoughts or is inappropriate quotes all you have?
Fuck yo gap.
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:43 am

Well, I guess if you refuse to be interviewed you can't get caught lying.
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For the Conservatives, it's a "provocative partisan stunt" by a national broadcaster. To Labour, it's an example of Boris Johnson "hiding from scrutiny". But the scene of an ice sculpture of Earth, melting in the spot where the prime minister might have stood during Channel 4's environment debate between party leaders, has prompted the Tories to complain to regulator Ofcom. The broadcaster also replaced the absent Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage with a sculpture, calling it "a visual metaphor for the... parties after their leaders declined our repeated invitations". It refused to allow Conservative minister Michael Gove to appear in Mr Johnson's place at the debate, which we fact-checked.

In a letter to Ofcom, the party says Channel 4 News's decision to use a sculpture constitutes "making a political opinion in its own right", while some Tory sources hinted to news outlets that a Conservative government would review the broadcaster's public service obligations. Mr Johnson is also yet to commit to an interview with the BBC's Andrew Neil, who has already grilled Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and the SNP's Nicola Sturgeon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50583866
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Re: UK election

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:09 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:43 am
Well, I guess if you refuse to be interviewed you can't get caught lying.
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For the Conservatives, it's a "provocative partisan stunt" by a national broadcaster. To Labour, it's an example of Boris Johnson "hiding from scrutiny". But the scene of an ice sculpture of Earth, melting in the spot where the prime minister might have stood during Channel 4's environment debate between party leaders, has prompted the Tories to complain to regulator Ofcom. The broadcaster also replaced the absent Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage with a sculpture, calling it "a visual metaphor for the... parties after their leaders declined our repeated invitations". It refused to allow Conservative minister Michael Gove to appear in Mr Johnson's place at the debate, which we fact-checked.

In a letter to Ofcom, the party says Channel 4 News's decision to use a sculpture constitutes "making a political opinion in its own right", while some Tory sources hinted to news outlets that a Conservative government would review the broadcaster's public service obligations. Mr Johnson is also yet to commit to an interview with the BBC's Andrew Neil, who has already grilled Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and the SNP's Nicola Sturgeon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50583866
If Bojo is ducking debates, it's means he's pretty confident going into this election. Reeeee
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Re: UK election

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:04 pm

...or he's ''frit''.
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