Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

[The Conservative]

He had every right to make that demand or request. Just as Trump has every right to request or demand an investigation of Ukranian corruption. You are playing semantics, as a lame attempt to disguise your Biden Derangement Syndrome.

You are missing the point, Trump didn't demand, he asked. Biden demanded...

And I don't have BDS, I see a wrong which needs to be righted. Just because Biden is caught up in it, and?

You are missing the point, a request or demand is irrelevant, both are well with their rights to do either. Only seeing a problem if Biden does it is BDS.

That is the problem, it's the way it was delivered that matters. A threat by someone who holds no power to do so is extortion.

[StCapps]

You are missing the point, Trump didn't demand, he asked. Biden demanded...

And I don't have BDS, I see a wrong which needs to be righted. Just because Biden is caught up in it, and?

You are missing the point, a request or demand is irrelevant, both are well with their rights to do either. Only seeing a problem if Biden does it is BDS.

That is the problem, it's the way it was delivered that matters. A threat by someone who holds no power to do so is extortion.

Biden had the power to do so. Obama was cool with it, Joe even said, if you think you can go running to Barack about it, and he'll cave, it ain't happening. Biden wasn't going rogue, he was doing his job, it benefiting him and his family as well does not change the calculus either. Without proof that he went rogue purely to help save his son and himself, you got nothing, just as the Democrats have nothing on Trump.

[The Conservative]

You are missing the point, a request or demand is irrelevant, both are well with their rights to do either. Only seeing a problem if Biden does it is BDS.

That is the problem, it's the way it was delivered that matters. A threat by someone who holds no power to do so is extortion.

Biden had the power to do so. Obama was cool with it, Joe even said, if you think you can go running to Barack about it, and he'll cave, it ain't happening. Biden wasn't going rogue, he was doing his job, it benefiting him and his family as well does not change the calculus either. Without proof that he went rogue purely to help save his son and himself, you got nothing, just as the Democrats have nothing on Trump.

There is plenty of proof, the problem is that it's now being re-investigated... so we won't know the depth of it until it's done.

[StCapps]

That is the problem, it's the way it was delivered that matters. A threat by someone who holds no power to do so is extortion.

Biden had the power to do so. Obama was cool with it, Joe even said, if you think you can go running to Barack about it, and he'll cave, it ain't happening. Biden wasn't going rogue, he was doing his job, it benefiting him and his family as well does not change the calculus either. Without proof that he went rogue purely to help save his son and himself, you got nothing, just as the Democrats have nothing on Trump.

There is plenty of proof, the problem is that it's now being re-investigated... so we won't know the depth of it until it's done.

There is no proof of it, being investigated is not proof of he had no right to request or demand shit as VP.

[The Conservative]

Biden had the power to do so. Obama was cool with it, Joe even said, if you think you can go running to Barack about it, and he'll cave, it ain't happening. Biden wasn't going rogue, he was doing his job, it benefiting him and his family as well does not change the calculus either. Without proof that he went rogue purely to help save his son and himself, you got nothing, just as the Democrats have nothing on Trump.

There is plenty of proof, the problem is that it's now being re-investigated... so we won't know the depth of it until it's done.

There is no proof of it, being investigated is not proof of he had no right to request or demand shit as VP.

Except it came out of the VP's own mouth, which you are ignoring...

[StCapps]

There is plenty of proof, the problem is that it's now being re-investigated... so we won't know the depth of it until it's done.

There is no proof of it, being investigated is not proof of he had no right to request or demand shit as VP.

Except it came out of the VP's own mouth, which you are ignoring...

It's allowed to come out of Biden's mouth, it's allowed to come out of Trump's mouth.

That doesn't matter, it's no coincidence I'm ignoring that, it's irrelevant.

[PartyOf5]

Can you two bitches just agree that it's hypocritical to be trying to impeach Trump over it while completely ignoring that a former Vice President did the same thing while he was in office? That's all the Dems are, hypocrites.

[The Conservative]

Can you two bitches just agree that it's hypocritical to be trying to impeach Trump over it while completely ignoring that a former Vice President did the same thing while he was in office? That's all the Dems are, hypocrites.

That is sort of my point, if they aren't going to nail Biden to the wall for extortion, they have absolute shit on Trump... for even if it was a Quid Pro Quo, that is expected inside the political circle of negotiations.

[brewster]

Biden had the power to do so. Obama was cool with it, Joe even said, if you think you can go running to Barack about it, and he'll cave, it ain't happening. Biden wasn't going rogue, he was doing his job, it benefiting him and his family as well does not change the calculus either. Without proof that he went rogue purely to help save his son and himself, you got nothing, just as the Democrats have nothing on Trump.

You're very close to the point, but not quite there. Remember Dan's episode on "Quo Bene"? Biden was carrying out explicit administration policy, which may or may not have benefited his son. Who besides Trump would benefit from investigating Biden?

"Democrats have nothing on Trump." It's pretty clear by now that Trump did everything he is accused of, trying to fabricate a conspiracy of this breadth is ludicrous. So it's just a matter of whether the evidence is substantial enough to go the distance. I'm no legal scholar, I have no idea.

[StCapps]

Can you two bitches just agree that it's hypocritical to be trying to impeach Trump over it while completely ignoring that a former Vice President did the same thing while he was in office? That's all the Dems are, hypocrites.

Thanks Captain Obvious. Politicians are hypocrites, who knew?