Peace

[StCapps]

Indeed, because I'm a Deist, so I don't believe in Hell

The Divine Watchmaker does not take sides, all will be at the foot of the Lord in the end.

I believe in hell, but I don't believe the Lord imposes it on anyone, they simply impose it on themselves, they don't forgive themselves, but the Lord forgives all.

There you go, from the Papists themselves. Corso Italia. Omerta.

It's a state of mind, not a location the Lord sends people to when they were naughty during their lives. Even those who put themselves in hell can free themselves of it, if they learn to forgive themselves, as the Lord does. Some people want karmic justice and want all the bad people put in post-life prison for all eternity, as punishment for their misdeed during life, but that is not the way it works, unless they impose it on themselves. God forgives all, regardless of their misdeed, even the worst of the worst.

[Smitty-48]

Getting back to the OP tho, DSL/STA says he wants a chance at true love.

That's why I don't agree with DrY, that he can just ease into it as a "relationship"

That's not how true love is. There's lots of people in "relationship" marriages without true love.

If it's true love, if the Lord is with you, you have to be all in, no holding back, you've got to take the leap of faith.

[StCapps]

Getting back to the OP tho, DSL/STA says he wants a chance at true love.

That's why I don't agree with DrY, that he can just ease into it as a "relationship"

That's not how true love is. There's lots of people in "relationship" marriages without true love.

If it's true love, if the Lord is with you, you have to be all in, no holding back, you've got to take the leap of faith.

Sometimes it appears to be true love, and you find out later it's not, I believe that is what DrY is getting at. You thought you were in love with other women you were with prior to seeing her, but then you found out you actually weren't after you saw her, for instance.

Lucky for you, you were right about your wife, but it doesn't always work out that way for everyone, especially StA, he already got burned once on that.

[Smitty-48]

Getting back to the OP tho, DSL/STA says he wants a chance at true love.

That's why I don't agree with DrY, that he can just ease into it as a "relationship"

That's not how true love is. There's lots of people in "relationship" marriages without true love.

If it's true love, if the Lord is with you, you have to be all in, no holding back, you've got to take the leap of faith.

Sometimes it appears to be true love, and you find out later it's not, I believe that is what DrY is getting at. You thought you were in love before you met your wife, but then you found out you actually weren't, for instance.

I know, but you won't know unless you jump.

You can't see what is over the top, you have to go over the top to find out, pipes skirling, colours flying,

If it's there, it's like nothing you can imagine beforehand.

My wife just woke up, came downstairs, brought me coffee, put her arms around me.

I swear to God, the spirit soars, once you get a taste, you can never go back.

[StCapps]

Getting back to the OP tho, DSL/STA says he wants a chance at true love.

That's why I don't agree with DrY, that he can just ease into it as a "relationship"

That's not how true love is. There's lots of people in "relationship" marriages without true love.

If it's true love, if the Lord is with you, you have to be all in, no holding back, you've got to take the leap of faith.

Sometimes it appears to be true love, and you find out later it's not, I believe that is what DrY is getting at. You thought you were in love before you met your wife, but then you found out you actually weren't, for instance.

I know, but you won't know unless you jump.

You can't see what is over the top, you have to go over the top to find out, pipes skirling, colours flying,

If it's there, it's like nothing you can imagine before hand.

My wife just woke up, came downstairs, brought me coffee, put her arms around me.

I swear to God, the spirit soars, once you get a taste, you can never go back.

Also even if it is true love for you, you can still drive them away even if they think it's true love for them too, and I believe Dr Y was advising StA to avoid common pitfalls of those who take the leap of faith and still screw it up despite it being true love to them.

[Smitty-48]

Sometimes it appears to be true love, and you find out later it's not, I believe that is what DrY is getting at. You thought you were in love before you met your wife, but then you found out you actually weren't, for instance.

I know, but you won't know unless you jump.

You can't see what is over the top, you have to go over the top to find out, pipes skirling, colours flying,

If it's there, it's like nothing you can imagine before hand.

My wife just woke up, came downstairs, brought me coffee, put her arms around me.

I swear to God, the spirit soars, once you get a taste, you can never go back.

Also even if it is true love for you, you can still drive them away even if they think it's true love for them too, and I believe Dr Y was advising StA to avoid common pitfalls of those who take the leap of faith and still screw it up despite it being true love to them.

I can only speak of my experience, I can't call the ball for another man, I can just say how it was for me.

I walked up to my wife across the room, and she lit up, it was immediate, we hit it off, Divine Matchmaker.

We sat and talked all night, then at the end of the night, I leaned in for a gentle kiss, and she let me.'

I waited a couple days before calling her, then I asked her out on a date.

On that date, it was instant chemistry, I had no doubt, there was no effort required, no easing into it.

Head over heels, at the jump, there was no tension, no awkwardness, she was my best girl, right away.

[Smitty-48]

By the end of that first date, I trusted her with my life, no doubts, I would have taken a bullet for her, no hesitation, I would have killed for her, no questions asked.

There was no transition, we were inseparable from that night on, twenty years has gone by in a flash,

[Smitty-48]

There's one thing tho, that first night we met, I laid it all out for her, while we sat and talked.

Who I was, what I was about, what I believed in. I made my pitch, I asked for the deal.

I told her, I'm looking for the right girl, for the real deal, I'm looking to go all in, if that girl was willing.

[Smitty-48]

My wife says she just thought I was extremely cute and smart and funny and charming,

but it wasn't love at first sight for her.

She says it wasn't until we went on the date, then she knew she was in love with me.

She says she believed me tho, when I said I was down for the real deal.

She trusted me, she was convinced that I was serious.

[Smitty-48]

Thus I think Speaker should just lay it on the line.

Doesn't have to be a hard sell, just tell her what you are down for.

Tell her you are down for the real deal, all in, love and marriage and the whole shebang.

If she recoils, then just walk away, because that's not meant to be.

We're not kids, this is not puppy love, at this age now, you are looking for a wife, make no bones about it.

You don't have to propose right now, but you should make it clear that you are serious.

If you are the age we are now, and that woman is not looking for a husband, then what is the point?