Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:17 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:12 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:47 pm
More conspiracy theories in order to deflect from Trump's behavior.
Yawn...
Not his behavior, the inquiry. It doesn't appear that anyone on the right would change their positions if Jehovah himself took the chair and confirmed that the accusations are 100% true and Trump indeed was extorting Ukraine. They really don't care at all about rule of law as long as they keep power. So the point of the inquiry isn't the truth, everyone on both sides already knows it. It isn't to remove Trump, ain't gonna happen since the Senate GOP is his lapdogs and he could shoot someone on the senate floor and they'd all swear they didn't see it.

It's to expose as knee jerk immoral partisans the GOP politicians who will continue to support him long after it's obvious to even the the most diehard that Trump did what he is accused of. Scumbags like Graham who know what a devil they made a deal with because they called him out on it before taking the knee. There's a tiny but important group of voters who actually care about truth and morality, and in the current electoral climate they can swing elections.

At this point the Trump apologists defense is "Ukraine got their aid, so there was no crime", which is like a thief saying he wasn't guilty of robbing the store since he dropped the loot as he was being chased. It's embarrassing hearing this drivel from lawyers who should know better.
The Democrats are acting far more partisan than the GOP clown, all they have is hearsay, and you are acting like there is a smoking gun. You're such a hack.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by brewster » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:30 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:17 pm
The Democrats are acting far more partisan than the GOP clown, all they have is hearsay, and you are acting like there is a smoking gun. You're such a hack.
Be honest, even if he allowed his staffers to testify, which will be coming depending on how SCOTUS decides on Imperial, um, Presidential Privilege, and they confirmed everything that has been said, no one would change their positions an inch, just as I said. Right? That why Jim Jordan was ranting all about it didn't matter since Ukraine got the aid, he's setting up the next line of defense when the denial wall falls.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:53 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:30 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:17 pm
The Democrats are acting far more partisan than the GOP clown, all they have is hearsay, and you are acting like there is a smoking gun. You're such a hack.
Be honest, even if he allowed his staffers to testify, which will be coming depending on how SCOTUS decides on Imperial, um, Presidential Privilege, and they confirmed everything that has been said, no one would change their positions an inch, just as I said. Right? That why Jim Jordan was ranting all about it didn't matter since Ukraine got the aid, he's setting up the next line of defense when the denial wall falls.
Of course the Republicans are being partisans, but the Democrats are worse, and you're putting most of the blame on Republicans, when no amount of evidence that Trump did nothing wrong will convince Demohacks of anything and they think mere hearsay is somehow a smoking gun worth impeaching the POTUS over.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by brewster » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:35 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:53 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:30 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:17 pm
The Democrats are acting far more partisan than the GOP clown, all they have is hearsay, and you are acting like there is a smoking gun. You're such a hack.
Be honest, even if he allowed his staffers to testify, which will be coming depending on how SCOTUS decides on Imperial, um, Presidential Privilege, and they confirmed everything that has been said, no one would change their positions an inch, just as I said. Right? That why Jim Jordan was ranting all about it didn't matter since Ukraine got the aid, he's setting up the next line of defense when the denial wall falls.
Of course the Republicans are being partisans, but the Democrats are worse, and you're putting most of the blame on Republicans, when no amount of evidence that Trump did nothing wrong will convince Demohacks of anything and they think mere hearsay is somehow a smoking gun worth impeaching the POTUS over.
Not surprisingly, you completely didn't answer my question.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:47 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:35 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:53 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:30 pm

Be honest, even if he allowed his staffers to testify, which will be coming depending on how SCOTUS decides on Imperial, um, Presidential Privilege, and they confirmed everything that has been said, no one would change their positions an inch, just as I said. Right? That why Jim Jordan was ranting all about it didn't matter since Ukraine got the aid, he's setting up the next line of defense when the denial wall falls.
Of course the Republicans are being partisans, but the Democrats are worse, and you're putting most of the blame on Republicans, when no amount of evidence that Trump did nothing wrong will convince Demohacks of anything and they think mere hearsay is somehow a smoking gun worth impeaching the POTUS over.
Not surprisingly, you completely didn't answer my question.
Some Republicans might flip if they actually prove Trump committed a crime, but not enough to remove him from office. The Democrats speculation could be completely disproven or amount to nothing, and most Democrats will still support impeachment and pretend there is a smoking gun. Both sides are being partisan, only one side will support impeaching a president with no evidence though, stop pretending the Republicans are the more egregious partisans here. The Republicans actually got Bill Clinton committing a crime, and the Democrats in the Senate didn't remove him from office, the Democrats have nothing and still want to impeach him.

So stop your one sided Republican bashing while giving the Democrats a pass when they are the bigger partisans here.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by brewster » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:52 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:47 pm
Some Republicans might flip if they actually prove Trump committed a crime, but not enough to remove him from office. The Democrats speculation could be completely disproven or amount to nothing, and most Democrats will still support impeachment and pretend there is a smoking gun. Both sides are being partisan, only one side will support impeaching a president with no evidence though, stop pretending the Republicans are the more egregious partisans here. The Republicans actually got Bill Clinton committing a crime, and the Democrats in the Senate didn't remove him from office, the Democrats have nothing and still want to impeach him.

So stop your one sided Republican bashing while giving the Democrats a pass when they are the bigger partisans here.
Listen to yourself here. You're admitting that even if a crime is proven most Republicans will stand by him, because blackmailing a foreign government to investigate your political opponent is no worse than lying about getting a blowjob in the oval office.

As for 'have nothing', no one is really disputing the transcript of the call in which he solicits the investigation and freaked out every actually legally aware member of the staff. They're simply fighting a rearguard action to say isn't as bad as it sounds.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by StCapps » Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:57 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:52 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:47 pm
Some Republicans might flip if they actually prove Trump committed a crime, but not enough to remove him from office. The Democrats speculation could be completely disproven or amount to nothing, and most Democrats will still support impeachment and pretend there is a smoking gun. Both sides are being partisan, only one side will support impeaching a president with no evidence though, stop pretending the Republicans are the more egregious partisans here. The Republicans actually got Bill Clinton committing a crime, and the Democrats in the Senate didn't remove him from office, the Democrats have nothing and still want to impeach him.

So stop your one sided Republican bashing while giving the Democrats a pass when they are the bigger partisans here.
Listen to yourself here. You're admitting that even if a crime is proven most Republicans will stand by him, because blackmailing a foreign government to investigate your political opponent is no worse than lying about getting a blowjob in the oval office.

As for 'have nothing', no one is really disputing the transcript of the call in which he solicits the investigation and freaked out every actually legally aware member of the staff. They're simply fighting a rearguard action to say isn't as bad as it sounds.
The transcript is not proof of a crime. Without proof of a crime, the Democrats have less to impeach Trump on than Republicans had on Clinton. Democrats are the bigger hacks here stop defending them and pretending this is all on the Republicans. At the very least, you could blame them both equally, instead of being a complete hack.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by The Conservative » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:00 am

StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:57 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:52 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:47 pm
Some Republicans might flip if they actually prove Trump committed a crime, but not enough to remove him from office. The Democrats speculation could be completely disproven or amount to nothing, and most Democrats will still support impeachment and pretend there is a smoking gun. Both sides are being partisan, only one side will support impeaching a president with no evidence though, stop pretending the Republicans are the more egregious partisans here. The Republicans actually got Bill Clinton committing a crime, and the Democrats in the Senate didn't remove him from office, the Democrats have nothing and still want to impeach him.

So stop your one sided Republican bashing while giving the Democrats a pass when they are the bigger partisans here.
Listen to yourself here. You're admitting that even if a crime is proven most Republicans will stand by him, because blackmailing a foreign government to investigate your political opponent is no worse than lying about getting a blowjob in the oval office.

As for 'have nothing', no one is really disputing the transcript of the call in which he solicits the investigation and freaked out every actually legally aware member of the staff. They're simply fighting a rearguard action to say isn't as bad as it sounds.
The transcript is not proof of a crime. Without proof of a crime, the Democrats have less to impeach Trump on than Republicans had on Clinton. Democrats are the bigger hacks here stop defending them and pretending this is all on the Republicans. At the very least, you could blame them both equally, instead of being a complete hack.
Democrats have hearsay; the Republicans had proof.

Call it what you will, but the Democrats so far have no leg to stand on.
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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by clubgop » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:32 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:27 pm
if the impeachment started going south for the Democrats there would be a school shooting
no way the school shooting was because of the impeachment hearings, get real
i'm out
Why? "There would be" doesn't mean faked or staged. It means something else for the media to cover and blame Trump for.

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Re: Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:34 am

Wow, the sycophants have been well drilled to repeat the ''hearsay'' meme at every opportunity.
Still, a wall of denial is still a wall even if Mexico isn't paying for it.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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