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Re: 2024 Election

Post by The Conservative » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:00 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:42 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:41 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:38 am
Or the voters could just start listening to more competent politicians who actually want to win an election instead of sabotaging the ability to do so by continuing to move to the left.
Not to be that person, but most Democrats follow feelings, not logic...
Yeah so make them feel sick of losing, and their votes will follow, eventually. Once the continuous movement to the left is clearly discredited, they will pivot back in an emotional reaction against it. It's just a question of when they do that.
Antifa and the SJW is what the result is so far, until we treat them like criminals or bitch slap them with reality, but schools and universities refuse to do so.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:03 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:00 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:42 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:41 am


Not to be that person, but most Democrats follow feelings, not logic...
Yeah so make them feel sick of losing, and their votes will follow, eventually. Once the continuous movement to the left is clearly discredited, they will pivot back in an emotional reaction against it. It's just a question of when they do that.
Antifa and the SJW is what the result is so far, until we treat them like criminals or bitch slap them with reality, but schools and universities refuse to do so.
Antifa and the SJWs will be thrown under the bus, because them voting for you doesn't win elections, once the Democrats figure that out, they won't matter. The Democrats are retarded but eventually they will get the message.

What is Antifa and the SJWs gonna do to punish the Democrats if they do that, vote Republican? Not going to happen, no need to pander to the fringe when they will be forced to vote for you anyway, even if you don't.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by The Conservative » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:20 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:03 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:00 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:42 am
Yeah so make them feel sick of losing, and their votes will follow, eventually. Once the continuous movement to the left is clearly discredited, they will pivot back in an emotional reaction against it. It's just a question of when they do that.
Antifa and the SJW is what the result is so far, until we treat them like criminals or bitch slap them with reality, but schools and universities refuse to do so.
Antifa and the SJWs will be thrown under the bus, because them voting for you doesn't win elections, once the Democrats figure that out, they won't matter. The Democrats are retarded but eventually they will get the message.

What is Antifa and the SJWs gonna do to punish the Democrats if they do that, vote Republican? Not going to happen, no need to pander to the fringe when they will be forced to vote for you anyway, even if you don't.
You give too much credit to them...
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:33 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:20 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:03 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:00 am


Antifa and the SJW is what the result is so far, until we treat them like criminals or bitch slap them with reality, but schools and universities refuse to do so.
Antifa and the SJWs will be thrown under the bus, because them voting for you doesn't win elections, once the Democrats figure that out, they won't matter. The Democrats are retarded but eventually they will get the message.

What is Antifa and the SJWs gonna do to punish the Democrats if they do that, vote Republican? Not going to happen, no need to pander to the fringe when they will be forced to vote for you anyway, even if you don't.
You give too much credit to them...
Just because they haven't changed yet doesn't mean they never will, you put too much faith in current trends, and not enough faith in political history. When the Democrats go off the far left deep end, it sometimes takes them a while to come around, but they always do in the end. They lost more elections in a row post Civil War than they will this time around, don't fool yourself into thinking they are the Whigs. They haven't come around in 2020, and they might not come around by 2024, but if they don't come around by 2028 or 2032, I'd be shocked.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by The Conservative » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:20 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:33 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:20 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:03 am
Antifa and the SJWs will be thrown under the bus, because them voting for you doesn't win elections, once the Democrats figure that out, they won't matter. The Democrats are retarded but eventually they will get the message.

What is Antifa and the SJWs gonna do to punish the Democrats if they do that, vote Republican? Not going to happen, no need to pander to the fringe when they will be forced to vote for you anyway, even if you don't.
You give too much credit to them...
Just because they haven't changed yet doesn't mean they never will, you put too much faith in current trends, and not enough faith in political history. When the Democrats go off the far left deep end, it sometimes takes them a while to come around, but they always do in the end. They lost more elections in a row post Civil War than they will this time around, don't fool yourself into thinking they are the Whigs. They haven't come around in 2020, and they might not come around by 2024, but if they don't come around by 2028 or 2032, I'd be shocked.
They have been going down hill for decades, they went from being the party of Kennedy to now where they are nearly the party of Castro... You can't just turn it around in 5 years what has taken nearly 50 to get to...

They went from the party that supposedly for the minority to taking them for granted and expecting them to vote for the DNC no matter how much was promised and not delivered upon. They blame the RNC for their actions, where it has been proven that places like Chicago Illinois has been controlled by Democrats for over 40 years looks like a third world country while Okinawa, Japan a country we blew up with a nuke looks like a paradise.

Chicago Mainstreet:
th-1.jpg
Okinawa Mainstreet:
Okinawa8.jpg
We have seen a party try to remove a president through a coup and say that the president did wrong...

I am sorry, but I don't give much hope of the DNC turning themselves around. They have shot themselves in the foot too many times and blaming the RNC while the DNC is holding not only holding the smoking gun, but pulling the trigger again to let off another round of lies into their foot.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:24 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:20 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:33 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:20 am


You give too much credit to them...
Just because they haven't changed yet doesn't mean they never will, you put too much faith in current trends, and not enough faith in political history. When the Democrats go off the far left deep end, it sometimes takes them a while to come around, but they always do in the end. They lost more elections in a row post Civil War than they will this time around, don't fool yourself into thinking they are the Whigs. They haven't come around in 2020, and they might not come around by 2024, but if they don't come around by 2028 or 2032, I'd be shocked.
They have been going down hill for decades, they went from being the party of Kennedy to now where they are nearly the party of Castro... You can't just turn it around in 5 years what has taken nearly 50 to get to...

They went from the party that supposedly for the minority to taking them for granted and expecting them to vote for the DNC no matter how much was promised and not delivered upon. They blame the RNC for their actions, where it has been proven that places like Chicago Illinois has been controlled by Democrats for over 40 years looks like a third world country while Okinawa, Japan a country we blew up with a nuke looks like a paradise.

Chicago Mainstreet:
th-1.jpg

Okinawa Mainstreet:
Okinawa8.jpg

We have seen a party try to remove a president through a coup and say that the president did wrong...

I am sorry, but I don't give much hope of the DNC turning themselves around. They have shot themselves in the foot too many times and blaming the RNC while the DNC is holding not only holding the smoking gun, but pulling the trigger again to let off another round of lies into their foot.
Not saying you’re wrong, but you could do that lazy comparison with pretty much any US Main Street over the last 40 years.

It’s more complex than party politics.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:32 am

The Democrats have gone whacko before, and the always pivoted back to the center eventually. Clinton and Obama are examples. Sometimes they spend a lot of time out in the wilderness, sometimes they pull it together after an election or two, but just because it hasn't happened yet since Trump came along, doesn't mean it's never going to happen.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by The Conservative » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:33 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:24 am
The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:20 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:33 am
Just because they haven't changed yet doesn't mean they never will, you put too much faith in current trends, and not enough faith in political history. When the Democrats go off the far left deep end, it sometimes takes them a while to come around, but they always do in the end. They lost more elections in a row post Civil War than they will this time around, don't fool yourself into thinking they are the Whigs. They haven't come around in 2020, and they might not come around by 2024, but if they don't come around by 2028 or 2032, I'd be shocked.
They have been going down hill for decades, they went from being the party of Kennedy to now where they are nearly the party of Castro... You can't just turn it around in 5 years what has taken nearly 50 to get to...

They went from the party that supposedly for the minority to taking them for granted and expecting them to vote for the DNC no matter how much was promised and not delivered upon. They blame the RNC for their actions, where it has been proven that places like Chicago Illinois has been controlled by Democrats for over 40 years looks like a third world country while Okinawa, Japan a country we blew up with a nuke looks like a paradise.

Chicago Mainstreet:
th-1.jpg

Okinawa Mainstreet:
Okinawa8.jpg

We have seen a party try to remove a president through a coup and say that the president did wrong...

I am sorry, but I don't give much hope of the DNC turning themselves around. They have shot themselves in the foot too many times and blaming the RNC while the DNC is holding not only holding the smoking gun, but pulling the trigger again to let off another round of lies into their foot.
Not saying you’re wrong, but you could do that lazy comparison with pretty much any US Main Street over the last 40 years.

It’s more complex than party politics.
No, it really isn't...

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Re: 2024 Election

Post by The Conservative » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:34 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:32 am
The Democrats have gone whacko before, and the always pivoted back to the center eventually. Clinton and Obama are examples. Sometimes they spend a lot of time out in the wilderness, sometimes they pull it together after an election or two, but just because it hasn't happened yet since Trump came along, doesn't mean it's never going to happen.
Clinton was a Republican compared to Obama, and Obama is an outright socialist. ObamaCare, Cash for Clunkers, bailing out banks, spending money like it wasn't his... trillions.... we are where we are with Trump because of 8 years of near-failed politics and practices of Obama.
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Re: 2024 Election

Post by StCapps » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:37 am

The Conservative wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:34 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:32 am
The Democrats have gone whacko before, and the always pivoted back to the center eventually. Clinton and Obama are examples. Sometimes they spend a lot of time out in the wilderness, sometimes they pull it together after an election or two, but just because it hasn't happened yet since Trump came along, doesn't mean it's never going to happen.
Clinton was a Republican compared to Obama, and Obama is an outright socialist. ObamaCare, Cash for Clunkers, bailing out banks, spending money like it wasn't his... trillions.... we are where we are with Trump because of 8 years of near-failed politics and practices of Obama.
Obama was a pivot to center away from Kerry and Gore who had gone too far out into left field. Outright socialist is bullshit, he was barely to the left of Hillary Clinton in 2008, a corporatist Democrat if ever there was one.
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