The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:54 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:49 pm
The government told us that if we leaned a couple of doors against a wall and got underneath we would live.
We all felt much better knowing that the government was keeping us safe.
That was true. The Anti-Nuclear Movement exaggerated the effects of the Thermonuclear Bomb.

If you are not right in the immediate effects radius, If you are indoors, you likely survive.

It would be devastating, but not as devastating as surmised by the public.

It was unlikely the Soviets would have even struck the UK.

The Soviet doctrine was to only nuke targets which would not retaliate with nuclear weapons.

America, Britain & France would not retaliate unless they were targeted.

The Soviets would have nuked West Germany, but not Britain. Britain would have nuked Poland, but not Russia.

The Soviet warplan was simply to prevent the Americans from reinforcing by Rammstein AFB

Take the Rhine in seven days. Punch a hole with tac nukes. Take the Americans out of the game in Europe.

Stop at the French border. Without the Americans backing them up, the French would sue for a ceasefire,
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Post by Montegriffo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:02 pm

It always seemed to me that an accidental launch was the biggest danger.
Honestly, I remember most people being totally fatalistic about it. Nothing you could do except ignore it.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:05 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:02 pm
It always seemed to me that an accidental launch was the biggest danger.
Honestly, I remember most people being totally fatalistic about it. Nothing you could do except ignore it.
An accidental launch is the only way it goes Interpolar.

The war goes off in Europe, the Americans reinforce, the Soviets are then reduced to Nuclear Deescalation.

Escalation Dominance. Threaten to Nuke the CONUS if the Americans don't back down.

The Inner German Border is a stalemate, so the war goes to the high seas.

Then the Soviets and Americans have a standoff like a Cuban Missile Crisis on Steroids.

Fog of War at the Brink. Then somebody launches by false alarm. Launch on Warning.

This is still the case now.
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Post by brewster » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:14 pm

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As a professional infantry soldier, I was indoctrinated to mass murder on behalf of the state.

The British Crown in North America. The Glorious Revolution & War of Independence.

Brothers in Arms, since 1918.

Anglo-America. The Anglosphere. United Kingdom - United States Security Agreement.

NATO was simply the forward position to prevent a nuclear war.

Freedom of Navigation is the prize. King Dollar rule the waves for our American freedom from tyranny.

War for the High Ground. Life, Liberty & The Pursuit of Happiness. Peace, Order & Good Government.

Only within the confines of National & International Law & The Laws of Armed Conflict.

Rule of Anglo-Saxon Law. Empire of Liberty. The Light of Civilization Itself.

Only as Christian Soldiers who fight the Forces of Darkness, the Enemies of Anglo - American Freedom.

Only against combatants, Direct Participants in Hostilities, by the Hague & Geneva Conventions,
Funny, not long ago you said you'd fight, but really for your regiment and the guys to your right and left.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:18 pm

brewster wrote:
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Funny, not long ago you said you'd fight, but really for your regiment and the guys to your right and left.
That's the only reason you don't run away from the battle.

The guys to the left and right of you are why you hold the Thin Red Line.

That's the male bonding aspect. What actually steadies the ranks.

You take an oath to kill and die, in theory, the practical thing that holds you to it, is the regiment.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:26 pm

As civilization continues to crumble, it's going to come down to loyalty between veterans and servicemen, and for active duty it comes down to your unit before everything else.

Same thing that happened in the Roman empire. It's almost like this is a thing..

Liberals and Marxists are doing everything to erode our civilization to death, and then wonder why the soldiers are only loyal to one another, and that final day of democracy hastens.

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Post by brewster » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:28 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:18 pm
brewster wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:14 pm

Funny, not long ago you said you'd fight, but really for your regiment and the guys to your right and left.
That's the only reason you don't run away from the battle.

The guys to the left and right of you are why you hold the Thin Red Line.

That's the male bonding aspect. What actually steadies the ranks.

You take an oath to kill and die, in theory, the practical thing that holds you to it, is the regiment.
Funny, you made me google Thin Red Line. Dates to a painting of Balaclava. I didn't realize Canucks wore the redcoat.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:30 pm

I mean.. we live in this dumpster fire multicultural society now. Do you know the only thing in my life that was ever able to create a common identity and bond between men where nothing else matters?

All men crave that identity and sense of belonging. All of them. Criminals have their gangs. Soldiers have their unit.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:34 pm

brewster wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:28 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:18 pm
brewster wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:14 pm

Funny, not long ago you said you'd fight, but really for your regiment and the guys to your right and left.
That's the only reason you don't run away from the battle.

The guys to the left and right of you are why you hold the Thin Red Line.

That's the male bonding aspect. What actually steadies the ranks.

You take an oath to kill and die, in theory, the practical thing that holds you to it, is the regiment.
Funny, you made me google Thin Red Line. Dates to a painting of Balaclava. I didn't realize Canucks wore the redcoat.
Indeed, the OG Thin Red Line was the 93rd (Sutherland Highlanders) Regiment of Foot at Balaclava.

British North America is British. We wore the Redcoat, which is actually called a Scarlet Doublet,
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by The Conservative » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:41 pm

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I wasn't a hero, I never did anything particularly heroic, just another face in the ranks of the Thin Red Line.

I was decorated for my service, but for no particular valour therein.

I did however take my role very seriously. We were on the Trace to stop World War Three.

I was highly motivated. I was keen to be at the sharp end. Prepared to kill & die, but by no means eager to.

If the Balloon went up, they said our life expectancy was between two hours and two weeks.

This was going to be a Doomsday War. The mission was to prevent that by standing in its path.

It wasn't a job, it was an adventure, but I was a professional & I aspired to be a man of honor.

The Thin Red Line on the Inner German Border. For the Free World.

And yet the "battle" we are fighting today, is nothing like the "war" we were fighting when you were in the "front lines." There are go borders, there are no front lines, the enemy has no boundaries, you may be a "Man on Honor", but the enemy we are fighting fights on a different premise. Religious. You, by their standards are not in the right.

Yet, you believing you are in the right, doesn't make you right. The same goes for them, it is the reason I am getting you on this, is because religion doesn't make it "right or just".

You are a good person that was trained to do bad things so the rest of us would not need to, but it doesn't mean you were always in the right, you were trained to believe you were doing it for the right reasons, you are too close to the problem to be an impartial, or neutral partner in this debate.
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