The Space War Thread

[Smitty-48]

Essentially there is a Cold War on earth, but due to the nuclear standoff, they're not going to fight WWIII

Instead, the fight is for the high ground in space, the opposing Cold War adversaries fight for control of space.

So you have two colonies on Mars, one American, the other Globalist.

Maybe each side controls one of the moons, Deimos and Phobos, they're like space docks in orbit.

The approaches to the planet is the gravity well, in and around Mars.

You're not going to have a ship battle in deep space, the battle is going to be in orbit.

That is the battle to control the approaches.

Meanwhile on the surface, the two colonies are head to head, it's like East and West Germany.

[TheReal_ND]

There has to be massive calamity to shake the calumnious egalatarian posion America has drank from. Otherwise, I don't believe we can leave this fuggin planet.

[Smitty-48]

That's what's so appealing to me at least about the WH40k universe. It's not some golden age full of miracles it's a dark grim place. Humanity has fallen in orders of magnitude and will never recover even if given enough time. There is no more time left the galaxy is on fire and soon Chaos or nids will claim it. Those that are aware realize the only thing they can put faith in is a God Emperor that has been dead for 10,000 years and the strength of their steel.

This anthology is more speculative than fantastical tho.

It's not the 41st century, it's the late 21st early 22nd.

There's no God Emperor, there's a POTUS and a UN Secretary General.

The UN is still in Manhattan, America is still on the Security Council.

The Globalists however decide to gang up on America, it's a Cold War.

There's still a nuclear standoff on earth tho, so you can't fight on earth.

The Globalists therefore make their move for the high ground in space.

Space is the new frontier, it's the new economy.

If America loses the high ground, the Globalists rule.

The United States Space Force is charged with defending the American position on the high ground in space.

On earth there is covert war, espionage, sabotage, etcetera,

the shooting war goes vertical however, to Mars, to Jupiter, to Saturn, the the Asteroid belt.

[StCapps]

Got to say, if you get around to writing this book Smitty, I'll read the shit out of it. Sounds fuckin' dope. At the very least the setting/world building and thematic elements will be top notch, just need some cool characters and a sweet plot to go with it.

[TheReal_ND]

I need more overt religious tones. None of this strikes me as appealing to those that believe this war is as old as Lucifer's rebellion. It seems sterile like Star trek or something. I'm just speaking for myself but you have set up a scenario that lacks spiritual conflict. And I don't mean to pile on at all because I appreciate your insight but lacking this, it seems like the same old false dichotomy of right vs left. Commies vs freedom. This won't sell for me.

[StCapps]

I need more overt religious tones. None of this strikes me as appealing to those that believe this war is as old as Lucifer's rebellion. It seems sterile like Star trek or something. I'm just speaking for myself but you have set up a scenario that lacks spiritual conflict. And I don't mean to pile on at all because I appreciate your insight but lacking this, it seems like the same old false dichotomy of right vs left. Commies vs freedom. This won't sell for me.

America will be the religious freedom fighters fighting against the atheist commie hordes. The forces of good vs the forces of evil, the atheist commie hordes continuing to push Lucifer's rebellion all the way into space to try and outflank the America Christians. There will be plenty of religion up in the mix, this is Smitty we are talking about here, he's good at writing that shit, haven't you read his posts?

[Smitty-48]

There has to be massive calamity to shake the calumnious egalatarian posion America has drank from. Otherwise, I don't believe we can leave this fuggin planet.

There's a Second War of Independence, and the Red States win.

It's not a conventional war, it's mostly in the streets, a mass political movement against the Globalist agenda.

America swings back to the traditional American conservative outlook.

The rest of the world however does not. So Fortress America is encircled.

The Globalists cannot take Fortress America, so instead they try to entrap America on earth by taking space.

It's a Cold War Space Race, except instead of the Moon being the objective, the whole Solar System is in play.

[TheReal_ND]

I would like to see something that more closely mirrors my struggle. It's all well and good talking about sterile space conflicts that lack any real motive I mean I've grown up with that already and it just makes visceral reacts. For me, it's my coming to religion and my personal life. I like the idea of laying down my life but I need a higher power. Is it democracy and free markets? No. It's slaying demons that are very real.

[StCapps]

I would like to see something that more closely mirrors my struggle. It's all well and good talking about sterile space conflicts that lack any real motive I mean I've grown up with that already and it just makes visceral reacts. For me, it's my coming to religion and my personal life. I like the idea of laying down my life but I need a higher power. Is it democracy and free markets? No. It's slaying demons that are very real.

America will be slaying many demons in this space race. It ain't a sterile conflict that is purely political, there will be plenty of religious overtones, Smitty has said so at length already. Lots of war, politics and religion will be in the mix, don't you worry, the religion angle will not be neglected it will be emphasized.

[TheReal_ND]

For me, I need a holy war.

Maybe you don't have to make it about Christianity but if you make it about fighting demonic forces and principalities that's just as good.

In fact don't make it about space Christianity but there needs to be theological undertones like John Milton's Paradise Lost. Idk it may sound crazy but it seems real to me and that's why I like WH40k.