Europe, the not boring thread

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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:01 pm

I’m wiser & smarter than Thatcher. Name someone you think is wiser & smarter than me (yourself excluded)?
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:01 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:54 pm
I insist that war is coming.
All my liberties, all my prosperity, all my free time, all my technological enhancements, are a product of war.

Pacifism is a slow death. War is the force that gives us meaning.

I am one with the force and the force is with me.
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by StCapps » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:04 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:01 pm
I’m wiser & smarter than Thatcher. Name someone you think is wiser & smarter than me (yourself excluded)?
Appeal to authority. Your argument is much worse than Thatcher's and on this subject, you clearly do not know more on this topic, and even if you general knowledge is superior, that does not extend to every single topic known to man.

Whenever you are losing an argument, you always claim to be the smartest and wisest in the room, and that people should just defer to your expertise, as if that wins the argument, when it's actually just you giving up because you don't have a good argument, so you resort to logical fallacies that preserve your ego and prevent you from asking yourself if you might be wrong on occasion.
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:06 pm

Unless wisdom is encoded in DNA then it must be acquired. I postulate wisdom is knowledge + experience + self-awareness. Wisdom can therefore be measured, and by that definition, I am the Wysest Myn in the Wyrld. (That plus a $1 will get me cup of coffee at McDonald’s)
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:07 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:01 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:54 pm
I insist that war is coming.
All my liberties, all my prosperity, all my free time, all my technological enhancements, are a product of war.

Pacifism is a slow death. War is the force that gives us meaning.

I am one with the force and the force is with me.
There is wisdom in there somewhere but clouded by at least 3 shots.
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by StCapps » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:08 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:06 pm
Unless wisdom is encoded in DNA then it must be acquired. I postulate wisdom is knowledge + experience + self-awareness. Wisdom can therefore be measured, and by that definition, I am the wisest myn in the Wyrld. (That plus a $1 will get me cup of coffee at McDonald’s)
That doesn't make you the wisest on every single subject, you don't know more than everyone on every single topic, so stop pretending that you do. When you have to resort to appealing to your own authority, it's a subject that you don't know that much about, but like to pretend that you do.
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:07 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:01 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:54 pm
I insist that war is coming.
All my liberties, all my prosperity, all my free time, all my technological enhancements, are a product of war.

Pacifism is a slow death. War is the force that gives us meaning.

I am one with the force and the force is with me.
There is wisdom in there somewhere but clouded by at least 3 shots.
War is the driving force that made America great, pacifist countries can't be great, because they don't do anything.

Pacifism is passiveism, it's the absence of drive, no conflict, no moonshot.
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 pm

StCapps wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:08 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:06 pm
Unless wisdom is encoded in DNA then it must be acquired. I postulate wisdom is knowledge + experience + self-awareness. Wisdom can therefore be measured, and by that definition, I am the wisest myn in the Wyrld. (That plus a $1 will get me cup of coffee at McDonald’s)
That doesn't make you the wisest on every single subject, you don't know more than everyone on every single topic, so stop pretending that you do. When you have to resort to appealing to your own authority, it's a subject that you don't know that much about, but like to pretend that you do.
Don’t conflate expertise with wisdom. Wisdom is by far the most difficult
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by StCapps » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:12 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 pm
StCapps wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:08 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:06 pm
Unless wisdom is encoded in DNA then it must be acquired. I postulate wisdom is knowledge + experience + self-awareness. Wisdom can therefore be measured, and by that definition, I am the wisest myn in the Wyrld. (That plus a $1 will get me cup of coffee at McDonald’s)
That doesn't make you the wisest on every single subject, you don't know more than everyone on every single topic, so stop pretending that you do. When you have to resort to appealing to your own authority, it's a subject that you don't know that much about, but like to pretend that you do.
Don’t conflate expertise with wisdom. Wisdom is by far the most difficult
Don't conflate wisdom with always knowing what is best about everything. When you actually know what you are talking about, you make good arguments and don't appeal to your own authority, but once cognitive dissonance sets in, that's when the appeals to authority come out.
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Re: Europe, the not boring thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:13 pm

Tell me when Thatcher drove Route 66, or made a movie, or stuck her finger up the ass of a Middle-aged guy to see if he had prostate cancer. All knowledge is mixed together for wisdom and self-awareness lets me understand my motives.
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