Norway says no to NATO missile shield

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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:48 pm

Seriously, fuck Norway.

For decades America has stood guard over Norway.

Every year America sent the Marines to Norway to keep the Soviets at bay.

America is still sending Marines to Norway to keep the Russians at bay now.

America was ready to fight a nuclear war for Norway.

Yet Norway can't even spare some room for an American radar station?

Fuck you, Norway, you fucking ingrates.

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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by StCapps » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:02 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:48 pm
Seriously, fuck Norway.

For decades America has stood guard over Norway.

Every year America sent the Marines to Norway to keep the Soviets at bay.

America is still sending Marines to Norway to keep the Russians at bay now.

America was ready to fight a nuclear war for Norway.

Yet Norway can't even spare some room for an American radar station?

Fuck you, Norway, you fucking ingrates.

Norway will be a target regardless of whether they accept American BMD or not, so not accepting provides zero utility. Norway thinking they can just stay out of it, and make themselves less of a target is a pipe dream, in fact that will just make them more of a target, because it makes them a softer target. Otern wishful thinking leading to silly analysis.

Get Trump to make some hilarious tweets and send a funny letter. Then send in The Mike's, they'll get Norway to change it's tune, ask Erdoghan.
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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:15 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:02 pm
Norway will be a target regardless of whether they accept American BMD or not, so not accepting provides zero utility.
America is the target, the Russians are not going to nuke Norway, the fallout would blow back on Murmansk.

With BMD, you can't track a missile that is on top of you, you have to track it way before that.

The radar in Norway is for tracking missiles headed to the CONUS

The radar for missiles heading to Norway, is in the Pacific.

BMD is space war, its one big radar network all around the world.

You are tracking these things in orbit, the ranges involved are transcontinental.

To target a missile above you, that had to be tracked coming from halfway round the world.

The threat to Norway, is a land invasion, the Russians could roll over them with ease.

That's why the Marines are there. It's a tripwire to prevent a Russians smash and grab.

If there is no American deterrent, the Russians can fuck Norways shit up, take their oil from them even.

What's Norway gonna do without America? Fight the Russians single handedly?

No. They would have to fold just to keep the Russians from wrecking the place.
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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by StCapps » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:31 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:15 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:02 pm
Norway will be a target regardless of whether they accept American BMD or not, so not accepting provides zero utility.
America is the target, the Russians are not going to nuke Norway, the fallout would blow back on Murmansk.

With BMD, you can't track a missile that is on top of you, you have to track it way before that.

The radar in Norway is for tracking missiles headed to the CONUS

The radar for missiles heading to Norway, is in the Pacific.

BMD is space war, its one big radar network all around the world.

You are tracking these things in orbit, the ranges involved are transcontinental.

To target a missile above you, that had to be tracked coming from halfway round the world.

The threat to Norway, is a land invasion, the Russians could roll over them with ease.

That's why the Marines are there. It's a tripwire to prevent a Russians smash and grab.

If there is no American deterrent, the Russians can fuck Norways shit up, take their oil from them even.

What's Norway gonna do without America? Fight the Russians single handedly?

No. They would have to fold just to keep the Russians from wrecking the place.
Not seeing how Norway becomes less of a target for a Russian smash and grab by not accepting American BMD. I see no logic or utility behind the move.
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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:33 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:31 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:15 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:02 pm
Norway will be a target regardless of whether they accept American BMD or not, so not accepting provides zero utility.
America is the target, the Russians are not going to nuke Norway, the fallout would blow back on Murmansk.

With BMD, you can't track a missile that is on top of you, you have to track it way before that.

The radar in Norway is for tracking missiles headed to the CONUS

The radar for missiles heading to Norway, is in the Pacific.

BMD is space war, its one big radar network all around the world.

You are tracking these things in orbit, the ranges involved are transcontinental.

To target a missile above you, that had to be tracked coming from halfway round the world.

The threat to Norway, is a land invasion, the Russians could roll over them with ease.

That's why the Marines are there. It's a tripwire to prevent a Russians smash and grab.

If there is no American deterrent, the Russians can fuck Norways shit up, take their oil from them even.

What's Norway gonna do without America? Fight the Russians single handedly?

No. They would have to fold just to keep the Russians from wrecking the place.
Not seeing how Norway becomes less of a target for a Russian smash and grab by not accepting American BMD. I see no logic behind the move.
Virtue Signalling Trump Deranged Surrender Monkeys.

Burn in Hell, Norway. I'd help the Russians smash and grab them naow.
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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by StCapps » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:40 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:33 pm
Virtue Signalling Trump Deranged Surrender Monkeys.

Burn in Hell, Norway. I'd help the Russians smash and grab them naow.
It really does seem like the only reason they didn't go for it is Trump wants it. If Trump came out in support of oxygen, the Norwegians would come out against it apparently.
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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:46 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:40 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:33 pm
Virtue Signalling Trump Deranged Surrender Monkeys.

Burn in Hell, Norway. I'd help the Russians smash and grab them naow.
It really does seem like the only reason they didn't go for it is Trump wants it. If Trump came out in support of oxygen, the Norwegians would come out against it apparently.
Pompeo should send them a message

From here on out, any military exercise in Norway, America should decline to participate.

Norway should not be invited to exercise with American forces.

Don't have to make a big public spectacle, just freeze the Norwegians out.
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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:03 pm

I'm rooting for the decline of the empire. For me, I owe it nothing. It has done less than nothing for me. That said, I think it's fair if Norway wants to cut themselves out to leave them to their own devices.

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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:05 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:03 pm
That said, I think it's fair if Norway wants to cut themselves out to leave them to their own devices.
But that's not what Norway is saying, they're not pulling out of NATO, they're not going it alone, it's just a big fuck you America, while they're still expecting America to send the Marines and secure the seas for them.
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Re: Norway says no to NATO missile shield

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:07 pm

Yeah this having it both ways needs to stop decades ago