Taxation without representation, home ownership and other forms of taxes.

[brewster]

Taxation beyond the initial tax of earned income is theft, and even that can be considered theft at times too.

That's a minority belief, but I guess there's no point in arguing it with you. As I said earlier you would need to replace it with something unless you want to get rid of tax paid infrastructures entirely. You can do it with a gigantic VAT tax, or many other regressive tax forms. The fact is that the property tax is the one of the fairer ways of doing things since it comes closest to an actual wealth tax that we have.

[The Conservative]

Taxation beyond the initial tax of earned income is theft, and even that can be considered theft at times too.

That's a minority belief, but I guess there's no point in arguing it with you. As I said earlier you would need to replace it with something unless you want to get rid of tax paid infrastructures entirely. You can do it with a gigantic VAT tax, or many other regressive tax forms. The fact is that the property tax is the one of the fairer ways of doing things since it comes closest to an actual wealth tax that we have.

No shit Sherlock its a minority belief. If it wasn't we wouldn't be bending over each time we got a paycheck and saving/burning 20% of it to go to housing taxes and paying taxes on everything we nearly buy...

Fuck, we pay how much in taxes each year at the end of the year, on top of taxes for our income, and then for things we buy after we've been taxed already on said money? You realize the entire system is designed to fuck you over and never allow you to get ahead right?

[Smitty-48]

You realize the entire system is designed to fuck you over and never allow you to get ahead right?

The system is structured to favor capital over labor.

Work is bullshit, jobs are jails.

Capital gains on the other hand is literally free money right now.

Policy stimulus is folly, but you can still profit mightily in a free money party.

You just don't get access to that money by way of an employer.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's never been a good idea to "get ahead" as an employee. If you want to get wealthy, you should start a business or become some kind of investor.

Even if you make a good salary, you are economically enslaved to your employer and your risk of catastrophe is way up there compared to somebody who goes into business. A business can fail, but a businessman has freedom of action that an employee will never have.

[The Conservative]

It's never been a good idea to "get ahead" as an employee. If you want to get wealthy, you should start a business or become some kind of investor.

Even if you make a good salary, you are economically enslaved to your employer and your risk of catastrophe is way up there compared to somebody who goes into business. A business can fail, but a businessman has freedom of action that an employee will never have.

An employee should have the ability to become later an employer. Companies that don't allow their employees to grow do them a disservice.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's never been a good idea to "get ahead" as an employee. If you want to get wealthy, you should start a business or become some kind of investor.

Even if you make a good salary, you are economically enslaved to your employer and your risk of catastrophe is way up there compared to somebody who goes into business. A business can fail, but a businessman has freedom of action that an employee will never have.

An employee should have the ability to become later an employer. Companies that don't allow their employees to grow do them a disservice.

"should" can be a dangerous word.

[The Conservative]

It's never been a good idea to "get ahead" as an employee. If you want to get wealthy, you should start a business or become some kind of investor.

Even if you make a good salary, you are economically enslaved to your employer and your risk of catastrophe is way up there compared to somebody who goes into business. A business can fail, but a businessman has freedom of action that an employee will never have.

An employee should have the ability to become later an employer. Companies that don't allow their employees to grow do them a disservice.

"should" can be a dangerous word.

Well, any employer that doesn't want their employers to do better, is nothing but a slaver. How's that?

[Fife]

Muh slavery paycheck

[Speaker to Animals]

An employee should have the ability to become later an employer. Companies that don't allow their employees to grow do them a disservice.

"should" can be a dangerous word.

Well, any employer that doesn't want their employers to do better, is nothing but a slaver. How's that?

It is not the role of employers to make employees wealthy.

In any case, if you want to start a business, then stop spending so much money on a large house, save, build a business plan, and get a loan from the SBA. There are lots of organizations that will help you do that, even to the point of getting you in touch with a mentor.

[brewster]

No shit Sherlock its a minority belief. If it wasn't we wouldn't be bending over each time we got a paycheck and saving/burning 20% of it to go to housing taxes and paying taxes on everything we nearly buy...

Fuck, we pay how much in taxes each year at the end of the year, on top of taxes for our income, and then for things we buy after we've been taxed already on said money? You realize the entire system is designed to fuck you over and never allow you to get ahead right?

Civilized countries tax to provide civilization, and most tax more than us. Sounds like you need to move to some shithole country with no functional government to tax you or provide services like roads, police and schools. Quit bitching and vote with your feet!