F35 vs. A10?

[Speaker to Animals]

Big Claim
Stealthy no more? A German radar vendor says it tracked the F-35 jet in 2018 — from a pony farm

The story that follows is a snapshot in the cat-and-mouse game between combat aircraft — designed to be undetectable by radar — and sensor makers seeking to undo that advantage. In the case of the F-35, the promise of invisibility to radar is so pronounced that it has colored much of the jet's employment doctrine, lending an air of invincibility to the weapon: The enemy never saw it coming.

But technology leaps only last so long, and Russia and China are known to be working on technology aimed at nixing whatever leg up NATO countries have tried to build for themselves.

Now, German radar-maker Hensoldt claims to have tracked two F-35s for 150 kilometers following the 2018 Berlin Air Show in Germany in late April of that year. The company’s passive radar system, named TwInvis, is but one of an emerging generation of sensors and processors so sensitive and powerful that it promises to find previously undetectable activities in a given airspace.
https://www.c4isrnet.com/intel-geoint/s ... pony-farm/

Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if we spent +1.5 trillion USD on a shitty stealth aircraft with substandard performance metrics across the board, and then the one thing this airframe was supposed to be any good at was rendered irrelevant?

[C-Mag]

Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if we spent +1.5 trillion USD on a shitty stealth aircraft with substandard performance metrics across the board, and then the one thing this airframe was supposed to be any good at was rendered irrelevant?

I'd more likely classify it as tragic.

Fucking passive radar

[Speaker to Animals]

If only people had been warning us for the past ten years.

[C-Mag]

What was that 80s movie about the building of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle ?

[C-Mag]

Research into stealth technology should be based on finding out what makes all photos Bigfoot, Nessy and UFO's fuzzy and fleeting .

Because no one is ever able to get a good camera shot at those, let along engage them with weapons.

[Hastur]

Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if we spent +1.5 trillion USD on a shitty stealth aircraft with substandard performance metrics across the board, and then the one thing this airframe was supposed to be any good at was rendered irrelevant?

I'd more likely classify it as tragic.

Fucking passive radar

It was just a matter of time. Can we go back to building beautiful ships now?

[Smitty-48]

It was just a matter of time. Can we go back to building beautiful ships now?

No, because passive radar is easily defeated by other means, it's not military grade IADS.

Stealth is for military radar, passive radar would be gone when the civilian power grid gets knocked down.

In a war zone, you're not going to have civil EM saturation required for passive radar

Because the power is going to be out, first thing that goes is the power grid.

Passive radar means you are seeing the reflection in the civilian bands

Those are not military radars, you can't shoot things down with it, it requires the civilian power grid to be on.

Stealth was never for being invisible in this context, that's not what it's for, there's no passive radar at sea.

[C-Mag]

Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if we spent +1.5 trillion USD on a shitty stealth aircraft with substandard performance metrics across the board, and then the one thing this airframe was supposed to be any good at was rendered irrelevant?

I'd more likely classify it as tragic.

Fucking passive radar

It was just a matter of time. Can we go back to building beautiful ships now?

Only if we can use dazzle camo

[Smitty-48]

This is just more fake news F-35 Derangement Syndrome.

[C-Mag]

This is just more fake news F-35 Derangement Syndrome.

I don't know, that's why I said Big Claim.
There is motive for Krauts to dis the F35, this is a big money deal and somebodys aircraft is going to lose out.

That said, I definitely want to know if this is true and can be corrected.