poll: was Hitler evil

was Hitler even evil?

Yes
9
75%
No
3
25%
 
Total votes: 12

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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by pineapplemike » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:04 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
Hitler is Sauron and Leopold is Melkor.

Everybody knows Sauron because of the movies. Nobody knows Melkor who has not actually read the entire set of books. Sauron was subordinate to Melkor. :o

The media pretty much controls the world because they control the NPCs.
hey fuck you bitch i read the silmarillion

i should re-read it

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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:12 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:54 am
He was a madman, look him up some time.
He wasn't insane, he was clever. Way more clever than Hitler.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:13 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:04 am


hey fuck you bitch i read the silmarillion

i should re-read it
I expect Peter Jackson will make an overlong trilogy of films about it soon enough.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:12 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:54 am
He was a madman, look him up some time.
He wasn't insane, he was clever. Way more clever than Hitler.
Not clever enough to prevent the Belgian Parliament taking his Congolese possessions away from him in the end.
He didn't even try to claim Congo for his nation, it was just a personal wealth grab with anywhere up to 10 million victims of his cruelty and the smallpox his private army took with them.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:21 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:04 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
Hitler is Sauron and Leopold is Melkor.

Everybody knows Sauron because of the movies. Nobody knows Melkor who has not actually read the entire set of books. Sauron was subordinate to Melkor. :o

The media pretty much controls the world because they control the NPCs.
hey fuck you bitch i read the silmarillion

i should re-read it
Kind of a slog.

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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:22 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:48 am
I have no idea who King Leopold II is.

All I can remember from my public school education is Hitler and Slavery. If they can successfully combine the two into Trump, public schooling will be much simpler for the next generation of teachers and students
The parallel between Trump and Hitler is revanchism.

Political opportunists riding the backlash against the established order in the wake of military defeat and economic collapse.

The driving force is national humiliation.

But it happens every time in every country, revanchism is almost baked into the cake of national military and economic humiliation.

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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by pineapplemike » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:27 am

^makes sense to me
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:21 am
pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:04 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:58 am
Hitler is Sauron and Leopold is Melkor.

Everybody knows Sauron because of the movies. Nobody knows Melkor who has not actually read the entire set of books. Sauron was subordinate to Melkor. :o

The media pretty much controls the world because they control the NPCs.
hey fuck you bitch i read the silmarillion

i should re-read it
Kind of a slog.
seriously, i only finished it for the street cred in middle school, right around the time the movies started coming out

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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:29 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:27 am
^makes sense to me
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:21 am
pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:04 am


hey fuck you bitch i read the silmarillion

i should re-read it
Kind of a slog.
seriously, i only finished it for the street cred in middle school, right around the time the movies started coming out
The only reason to read it is to get your proverbial doctorate in Middle Earth studies.

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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:01 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:29 am
pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:27 am
^makes sense to me
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:21 am


Kind of a slog.
seriously, i only finished it for the street cred in middle school, right around the time the movies started coming out
The only reason to read it is to get your proverbial doctorate in Middle Earth studies.
Oh, I don't know. It gives you the backstories of many of the later figures.
How Gollum came into possession of the one ring for example.
It's a challenging read, not helped by Tolkein's habit of giving everyone 2 or 3 names, but I wouldn't say pointless.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:02 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:01 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:29 am
pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:27 am
^makes sense to me


seriously, i only finished it for the street cred in middle school, right around the time the movies started coming out
The only reason to read it is to get your proverbial doctorate in Middle Earth studies.
Oh, I don't know. It gives you the backstories of many of the later figures.
How Gollum came into possession of the one ring for example.
It's a challenging read, not helped by Tolkein's habit of giving everyone 2 or 3 names, but I wouldn't say pointless.

Good expounding on the matter, professor.

It's obviously cool, and a nice escape from the shit show clown world we live in now, but honestly the only reason you'd want to know that stuff is to be an expert on Middle Earth.