THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Montegriffo
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:36 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:16 am
Because it is a coup.
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noun: coup; plural noun: coups; noun: coup d'état; plural noun: coup d'états; plural noun: coups d'état

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a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
"he was overthrown in an army coup"
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an instance of successfully achieving something difficult.
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It's not sudden, violent or illegal. It isn't even seizing power from a government.

It's just another misuse of words like genocide or invasion.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:48 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:33 am
Holding someone accountable for their words and actions is TDS/BDS.

The current state of this forum.
You already said you have no proof, so what words and what actions are you holding Trump accountable for? The call transcript has been made public, so if there was anything there you could post the specific parts yourself. Instead you are relaying on the same group of liars and con men that gave us Russiagate, the fake dossier, and other lies.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by pineapplemike » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:51 am

isnt all foreign aid essentially a bribe anyway

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:51 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:47 am
You think Trump hasn't done anything worthy of criticism?
Criticism and impeachment are very different levels.

This is the point where you start moving goalposts. The discussion was specifically about impeachment and people asking you to provide proof. You can't so now you pivot to "what, I'm not allowed to criticize him?".

You are so predictable. Same hack bitch every time.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:52 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:36 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:16 am
Because it is a coup.
coup
/kuː/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: coup; plural noun: coups; noun: coup d'état; plural noun: coup d'états; plural noun: coups d'état

1.
a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
"he was overthrown in an army coup"
h
Similar:
seizure of power
overthrow
takeover
ousting
deposition
regime change
bloodless coup
palace revolution
rebellion
revolt
insurrection
mutiny
revolution
insurgence
insurgency
rising
rioting
riot
coup d'état
jacquerie
putsch
h
Opposite:
election
2.
an instance of successfully achieving something difficult.
"it was a major coup to get such a prestigious contract"
h
Similar:
success
triumph
feat
successful manoeuvre
stunt
accomplishment
achievement
attainment
stroke
master stroke
stroke of genius
scoop
tour de force
an unusual or unexpected but successful tactic in card play.
3.
Billiards
a direct pocketing of the cue ball, which is a foul stroke.
4.
historical
(among some North American Indian peoples) an act of touching an armed enemy in battle as a deed of bravery, or an act of first touching an item of the enemy's in order to claim it.
It's not sudden, violent or illegal. It isn't even seizing power from a government.

It's just another misuse of words like genocide or invasion.
It is called a civilian coup, Monte.

Also, if they actually remove a president for no crime whatsoever, there will be violence, and civil war in America is bad news for you too.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by PartyOf5 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:58 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:08 am
No, but they spent 3 years investigating Benghazi without a single charge being made and they held an unsuccessful enquiry into Hillary's e-mails. Then they ran an election campaign on ''lock her up''. Hardly surprising that the Dem's are copying the tactics which won the election for Trump.
It isn't just one side that is responsible for the current toxic state of American politics.
They aren't copying the tactics, they invented them. Years before Trump the DNC was using this tactic at a local level. In Wisconsin Scott Walker was elected governor in 2010. Democrats tried to get that election voided with a recall election. He won the recall by an even wider margin than 2010. They then ran a multi-year John Doe investigation similar to what they are trying now with Russia and Ukraine. Over 2 years of investigation and harassment and they ended up with..........NOTHING.

Stop trying to act like you know something. You don't know a damn thing about what is going on because all you do is read the headlines and believe the lies.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:11 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:52 am

It is called a civilian coup, Monte.

Also, if they actually remove a president for no crime whatsoever, there will be violence, and civil war in America is bad news for you too.
Well, they can't remove him for no crime whatsoever.
Even if they remove Trump for a proven crime it doesn't remove the Government from power. The boot just passes from his foot to Pence's.
It's just inflammatory rhetoric much like your post above.
We had ''invasion'' and ''national emergency'' in the lead up to the mid-terms then all of a sudden nothing as soon as the election was over.
It's transparent thin-skinned rhetoric and nothing more.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:02 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:11 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:52 am

It is called a civilian coup, Monte.

Also, if they actually remove a president for no crime whatsoever, there will be violence, and civil war in America is bad news for you too.
Well, they can't remove him for no crime whatsoever.
Even if they remove Trump for a proven crime it doesn't remove the Government from power. The boot just passes from his foot to Pence's.
It's just inflammatory rhetoric much like your post above.
We had ''invasion'' and ''national emergency'' in the lead up to the mid-terms then all of a sudden nothing as soon as the election was over.
It's transparent thin-skinned rhetoric and nothing more.
No crime was committed, they cannot name a single violated statute, and yet they are trying to remove him in a sham trial.

I swore an oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. Overthrowing a properly elected government makes the democrats and their neocon allies enemies of every oath-keeping veteran and service member.

There is no beta coward's way to accomplish their goal. There will be violence if they go through with this, and the world will be in peril.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:09 am

Hastur wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:51 am
Did anyone call for Obama to be impeached over fast and furious or when he used the IRS to go after political opponents?
I don't remember a bunch of impeachment talk with Obama, even with a lot of corruption and crimes committed. We wanted specific people to go down for their roles.

IRS targeting - Gollum and the gal
Fast N Furious - Wingman AG
Benghazi - HRC and her espionage server

The difference to me is specific citable crimes, and we laid them out at ol DCF. Benghazi specifically was maddening to a lot of people because US personal were more or less left to die. There's a bunch more too. Slolyandra was a giant corruption scandal, the BHO response to BP Gulf Oil spill was suspicious as hell.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:14 am

pineapplemike wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:51 am
isnt all foreign aid essentially a bribe anyway
As far as I'm concerned...……… pretty much. It's not good for the country receiving it either because it influences their decision making process.

I just read an article from the first week of April where it was noted that Trump was withholding military aid to Ukraine until they paid up their UN dues...……….. which pretty much blows this quid pro quo idea out of the water.
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