The decline and/or rise of the historical museum

[Montegriffo]

The Spitfire didn't save Britain, America did.

The legend of the Spitfire is mostly bullshit.

It wasn't actually all it is cracked up to be and it was quickly supplanted as an air superiority platform except in secondary theaters,

Hurricane did most of the work, Spitfire got all the credit.

Hurricanes generally shot down the bombers while the Spitfires took care of the fighters.
That's why the Hurricanes had more kills.
Operation Sealion was real and the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe's inability to gain full superiority in the channel was what stopped it. That was down to the RAF and the Royal Navy. After the Battle of Britain, there was no further threat of invasion.
Sure, we couldn't win the war without the Soviets and the Americans but we stood alone (with the help of the Empire and pilots from conquered nations) and resisted invasion in 1940.

[Smitty-48]

The Spitfire didn't save Britain, America did.

The legend of the Spitfire is mostly bullshit.

It wasn't actually all it is cracked up to be and it was quickly supplanted as an air superiority platform except in secondary theaters,

Hurricane did most of the work, Spitfire got all the credit.

Hurricanes generally shot down the bombers while the Spitfires took care of the fighters.
That's why the Hurricanes had more kills.

Bullshit. The Spitfire was a poor dogfighter, couldn't turn worth a shit, couldn't roll at speed.

The Spitfire was a pure interceptor, it could climb, it could dive, that's it.

The Hurricane was better at everything, the RAF would have been better off if it hadn't wasted resources on the Spits.

The Spitfire is one of the most overrated weapons in history, people like the looks of it, and it is nice looking, that's why it gets all the love, but the legend of the Spitfire is bullshit.

[StCapps]

Sure, we couldn't win the war without the Soviets and the Americans but we stood alone (with the help of the Empire and pilots from conquered nations) and resisted invasion in 1940.

That was in spite of the spitfire, not because of it. Smitty knows.

[Smitty-48]

Sure, we couldn't win the war without the Soviets and the Americans but we stood alone (with the help of the Empire and pilots from conquered nations) and resisted invasion in 1940.

That was in spite of the spitfire, not because of it. Smitty knows.

The British actually switched to the American P-51 Mustang and dumped most of their Spitfires on the Soviets

The Soviets were like "WTF this thing is crap"

The Soviets tell the truth about the Spit, because they weren't emotionally attached to it.

[Montegriffo]

The Spitfire didn't save Britain, America did.

The legend of the Spitfire is mostly bullshit.

It wasn't actually all it is cracked up to be and it was quickly supplanted as an air superiority platform except in secondary theaters,

Hurricane did most of the work, Spitfire got all the credit.

Hurricanes generally shot down the bombers while the Spitfires took care of the fighters.
That's why the Hurricanes had more kills.

Bullshit. The Spitfire was a poor dogfighter, couldn't turn worth a shit, couldn't roll at speed.

The Spitfire was a pure interceptor, it could climb, it could dive, that's it.

The Hurricane was better at everything, the RAF would have been better off if it hadn't wasted resources on the Spits.

The Spitfire is one of the most overrated weapons in history, people like the looks of it, and it is nice looking, that's why it gets all the love, but the legend of the Spitfire is bullshit.

The Spitfire was faster, the Hurricane couldn't compete with the ME109 for speed. That's why the Hurricanes concentrated on the bombers.
At the end of the day, it was a home advantage and radar which won the Battle of Britain along with Goering's tactical mistakes.

[Smitty-48]

Tell you what the best fighter in WWII was;

Nope, not the P-51.

The Republic P-47 Thunderbolt. The Jug.

[Montegriffo]

Sure, we couldn't win the war without the Soviets and the Americans but we stood alone (with the help of the Empire and pilots from conquered nations) and resisted invasion in 1940.

That was in spite of the spitfire, not because of it. Smitty knows.

The British actually switched to the American P-51 Mustang and dumped most of their Spitfires on the Soviets

The Soviets were like "WTF this thing is crap"

The Soviets tell the truth about the Spit, because they weren't emotionally attached to it.

The Soviets got the outdated Spitfires and used them mostly for ground attack. The Yak 3 was more suited to that role.
The Spitfire matched German planes right up until the ME 262 but they were too little too late anyway.
The Mustang was only as good as it was because of the Rolls Royce Merlin engine it used.

[Smitty-48]

The Spitfire was faster, the Hurricane couldn't compete with the ME109 for speed. That's why the Hurricanes concentrated on the bombers.

Bullshit.

The Hurricane was more than a match for the BF109 because the Hurricane could out turn it.

Hurricane and BF109 could out turn Spitfire.

Dogfights were won by turning not racing.

[Smitty-48]

The Soviets got the outdated Spitfires and used them mostly for ground attack.

The Spitfire was outdated at the outbreak of war, the Soviets got the "vaunted" Spitfires from the Battle of Britain.

The RAF quickly switched to better fighters from the Americans, P-47's and P-51's

[Montegriffo]

The later mark IX Spitfires were still shooting German fighters out of the air right up to 1945. They matched the FW 190 which was their best fighter.