THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:56 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:55 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:51 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:49 pm


Enough of them very well could. You are being delusional. They hate Trump.
Not more than they hate the Democrats. You are being delusion, Trump has more Republican support than any Republican POTUS, the Never Trumperers are a fringe faction that is less 5% of the party, and will not swing the vote one way or the other. That shit is dead on arrival in the Senate, even if it barely makes it past the house.
Dude, they *are* democrat. Every last God damned market liberal (aka neocon or libertarian) is a democrat. They invaded the GOP from the democratic party and scuttled the GOP for generations. They love playing the minority loser. That's their political role. Trump winning fucked them hard. Now they had to renege on their promises to get rid of Obamacare, etc. They are necessary for the globalist machine to continue feeding off the United States until it dies.

That anti-immigration talk is like kryptonite to them.
Most neocons and libertarians are Republican and fully on the Trump Train. A few outliers does not mean they switched sides, you are buying into media propaganda, trying to make the Never Trumpers seem like a much larger portion of the party than they really are. You've been duped.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:57 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:50 pm
They are more damned if they do, then damned if they don't.
The party is at war with itself.

it's Boomers v Millenials, the Boomers want to play it safe, the Millenials want to virtue signal.

The impeachment ginning is an attempt by Pelosi to appease her left flank.

It will fail, but at least she can say she went for it.

I don't think the economy is going to decide the election, and if it goes in the tank that actually favors the GOP.

If the economy tanks, the Bernie Bros are not what Americans are going to be clambering for.

It's not going to tank tho, the policy stimulus is not going to be withdrawn.

It's gonna run flat at worst, but it wont tank until they run out of room to stimulate.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:58 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:56 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:55 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:51 pm
Not more than they hate the Democrats. You are being delusion, Trump has more Republican support than any Republican POTUS, the Never Trumperers are a fringe faction that is less 5% of the party, and will not swing the vote one way or the other. That shit is dead on arrival in the Senate, even if it barely makes it past the house.
Dude, they *are* democrat. Every last God damned market liberal (aka neocon or libertarian) is a democrat. They invaded the GOP from the democratic party and scuttled the GOP for generations. They love playing the minority loser. That's their political role. Trump winning fucked them hard. Now they had to renege on their promises to get rid of Obamacare, etc. They are necessary for the globalist machine to continue feeding off the United States until it dies.

That anti-immigration talk is like kryptonite to them.
Most neocons and libertarians are Republican and fully on the Trump Train. A few outliers does not mean they switched sides.

Oh, bullshit. They have been sabotaging him from the start. What the fuck are you smoking?

If you cannot accept NATION BEFORE PROFIT, then you are not right wing. You are just a market liberal. Half the GOP in the House are market liberals and Trump's anti-immigration talk is like an act of war against their fifth column existence.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:00 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:57 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:50 pm
They are more damned if they do, then damned if they don't.
The party is at war with itself.

it's Boomers v Millenials, the Boomers want to play it safe, the Millenials want to virtue signal.

The impeachment ginning is an attempt by Pelosi to appease her left flank.

It will fail, but at least she can say she went for it.

I don't think the economy is going to decide the election, and if it goes in the tank that actually favors the GOP.

If the economy tanks, the Bernie Bros are not what Americans are going to be clambering for.

It's not going to tank tho, the policy stimulus is not going to be withdrawn.

It's gonna run flat at worst, but it wont tank until they run out of room to stimulate.
It's a strategic mistake to cave to virtue signalers, saying she went for it hurts the party. Just because it's a catch-22 doesn't mean they should keep digging themselves in a deeper and deeper hole, just because they aren't likely to escape the current hole they've dug for themselves.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:02 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:58 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:56 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:55 pm


Dude, they *are* democrat. Every last God damned market liberal (aka neocon or libertarian) is a democrat. They invaded the GOP from the democratic party and scuttled the GOP for generations. They love playing the minority loser. That's their political role. Trump winning fucked them hard. Now they had to renege on their promises to get rid of Obamacare, etc. They are necessary for the globalist machine to continue feeding off the United States until it dies.

That anti-immigration talk is like kryptonite to them.
Most neocons and libertarians are Republican and fully on the Trump Train. A few outliers does not mean they switched sides.

Oh, bullshit. They have been sabotaging him from the start. What the fuck are you smoking?

If you cannot accept NATION BEFORE PROFIT, then you are not right wing. You are just a market liberal. Half the GOP in the House are market liberals and Trump's anti-immigration talk is like an act of war against their fifth column existence.
Dude the neocons and market libertarian Republicans back Trump, they didn't leave for the Democrats, a few of them switched sides, but not enough to help the Democrats bring Trump down. Trump's inner party support is strong, you are buying into FAKE NEWS that wants you to believe the Republicans are divided when they are united and it's actually the Democrats who are divided.

Not agreeing with Trump on every issue also doesn't mean you are going to vote for impeachment, or aren't going to vote for his agenda most of the time. You are mistaking the degree of opposition to Trump because they don't go along with absolutely everything, including some of your pet issues, because you are naive and think that doesn't happen to every fucking POTUS.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:04 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:00 pm
It's a strategic mistake to cave to virtue signalers, saying she went for it hurts the party. Just because it's a catch-22 doesn't mean they should keep digging themselves in a deeper and deeper hole, just because they aren't likely to escape the current hole they've dug for themselves.
These strategic mistakes is why you need a leader.

The leader is the person who bridges the gaps and tempers the rabble rousers.

With the split in the party and no leader, they are drifting towards the shoals.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:06 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:04 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:00 pm
It's a strategic mistake to cave to virtue signalers, saying she went for it hurts the party. Just because it's a catch-22 doesn't mean they should keep digging themselves in a deeper and deeper hole, just because they aren't likely to escape the current hole they've dug for themselves.
These strategic mistakes is why you need a leader.

The leader is the person who bridges the gaps and tempers the rabble rousers.

With the split in the party and no leader, they are drifting towards the shoals.
Indeed, having no bench is really burning them for decades to come, it's a bad time for the Dems to be leaderless right now, they really couldn't have picked a worse time for it to happen to them.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by clubgop » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:07 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:49 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:47 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:45 pm
Almost all the dems are going to vote to launch impeachment. Enough republicans will join to make it a thing.

Not sure how far it can go on such chickenshit, but I would be more surprised if it does not escalate, honestly.
Republicans are not going to join, and not all Dems are going to vote for impeachment. The Dems are committing political suicide, but you over-estimate them and think that because they think it's a good idea, it must actually be a good idea, you actually trust Dems strategic political judgement, because you're actually a closet leftist who thinks that bullshit actually works and isn't clearly counter-productive to their stated cause. The Dems are not competent, stop pretending they are.
Enough of them very well could. You are being delusional. They hate Trump.
You are delusional you need 67 votes in the Senate that's gonna require 20+ GOP turncoats. Not going to happen.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:08 pm

clubgop wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:07 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:49 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:47 pm
Republicans are not going to join, and not all Dems are going to vote for impeachment. The Dems are committing political suicide, but you over-estimate them and think that because they think it's a good idea, it must actually be a good idea, you actually trust Dems strategic political judgement, because you're actually a closet leftist who thinks that bullshit actually works and isn't clearly counter-productive to their stated cause. The Dems are not competent, stop pretending they are.
Enough of them very well could. You are being delusional. They hate Trump.
You are delusional you need 67 votes in the Senate that's gonna require 20+ GOP turncoats. Not going to happen.
He's an idiot. He really think that most Americans view the world exactly as he does, and he makes idiotic predictions based on his projecting his beliefs on people who aren't even close to sharing them. Because Trump won in 2016, and StA was right for all the wrong reasons, he now makes predictions based on those wrong reasons, thinking that means he's on the right path, hence why he's sounding dumber than ever lately.

He honestly think that just being a neocon or a market libertarian means they would vote for impeachment, because they don't agree with everything Trump wants on immigration and tariffs, wishful thinking is helluva drug.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:11 pm

StCapps wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:06 pm
Indeed, having no bench is really burning them for decades to come, it's a bad time for the Dems to be leaderless right now, they really couldn't have picked a worse time for it to happen to them.
It's just like the Liberals, when you're trucking out Stephane Dion and Micheal Ignatieff, you're dead in the water.

Obama was the Democrats Trudeau.

But there was no successor, they had no replacement for Barack in the wings.
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