Meanwhile in America

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by C-Mag » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:44 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:10 am
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:01 am
That would be a lot of fun. :mrgreen:
I'm quite happy with the Remington 870 Express Tactical slide action with ghost rings and full stock for butt stroking people.

AA12 is pretty much the ultimate street sweeper, but I don't feel the need for that volume of fire downrange.

I take my time, slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
The 870s gold.

When I was at the Naval Small Weapons development center I was shown all the 12 gauge rounds they'd developed, Fleshette, Explosive, Flares, you name it. I would think a belt fed 12 ga with a variety of rounds like that would be ridiculously effective in urban terrain. A pour mans MK19.
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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:49 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:44 am
The 870s gold.

When I was at the Naval Small Weapons development center I was shown all the 12 gauge rounds they'd developed, Fleshette, Explosive, Flares, you name it. I would think a belt fed 12 ga with a variety of rounds like that would be ridiculously effective in urban terrain. A pour mans MK19.
Remington 870 or Mossberg 590, they're both good to go.

I prefer slide action so I can breach load, pocket full 'o shells, topping up as I go.

00 Buck mostly, but you can still use slug with a smoothbore at tactical ranges.

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Fife » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:03 pm

I went on quite a few suburban whitetail hunts when I was a kid that were shotgun-only because of the close quarters on the wildlife management area we were hunting on. My dad set me up with a really nice slug barrel for my 870 when I was about 14 or so, and I've still got that beauty.

Very Fun! and Very Deadly! to a whitetail at least, in my personal experience.

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:04 pm

If I need repetition fire at standoff, I go to the Dominion Arms SOCOM 18

7.62 x 51mm NATO Battle Rifle

M14 EBR clone.

Non Restricted Class in Canader.

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:20 pm

Fife wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:03 pm
Very Fun! and Very Deadly! to a whitetail at least, in my personal experience.
Like I say, you can still use slug with smoothbore. Still pretty accurate out to 75 yards or so.

Just don't bother with flechette, waste of money, since the smoothbore doesn't impart any spin.

For deer, I can use the SOCOM 18 to hunt on Crown Land, with a ten round magazine even, perfectly legal.

M14 EBR clone, for $600.00 CAD. Value pick.

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by C-Mag » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:22 pm

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by C-Mag » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:25 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:04 pm
If I need repetition fire at standoff, I go to the Dominion Arms SOCOM 18

7.62 x 51mm NATO Battle Rifle

M14 EBR clone.

Non Restricted Class in Canader.
With the WWI anniversary was there any increase in interest in the Ross Rifle ?

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:34 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:25 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:04 pm
If I need repetition fire at standoff, I go to the Dominion Arms SOCOM 18

7.62 x 51mm NATO Battle Rifle

M14 EBR clone.

Non Restricted Class in Canader.
With the WWI anniversary was there any increase in interest in the Ross Rifle ?

:?
Nope.

My great grandfather fought from Ypres to Mons, and I read in his diary that he ditched his Ross Rifle for a Lee Enfield at Ypres.

They picked up rifles from the Indian troops who had fled in the face of the gas attack.

My great grandfather was 72nd Seaforth Highlanders of Canada, so they cut strips off their kilts and pissed on them, to breath in the gas cloud, so they held the line and were waiting for the Germans, who assumed all would have fled the gas, which is how the Second Battle of Ypres was won for the British.
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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:43 pm

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:54 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:39 am
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Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:04 am
It was probably more like a 410 or 16 ga that I was looking at. But here's my question. If I'm correct in assuming this civil war shotgun was black powder did they still use the same gauges we use now? Did they use shells back then? If not would they accept a shell now? I bet they used them back then but I'm unsure when I think about it. Probably at minimum a percussion cap.
Civil War shotgun would most likely be a muzzle loader. While calibers were pretty standardized for rifles, shotguns were less so. Shotguns gauges refer to the weight of lead you can shoot. A 0.10 pound lead sphere will fit in the bore of a 10 gauge(which happens to be 0.775").

If it's from the ACW, it's probably Confederate. Confederate Cavalry loved them.
So they use percussion caps or what? How hard are they to load? I've seen people that carry old muzzle loading hooker guns and a pocketful of shot, caps and a little flask of powder. Always wondered how hard it would be to reload. Seems fun as shit.