Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by StCapps » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:57 am

BjornP wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:52 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:10 am
BjornP wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:09 am


Meaningless sentence, Capps.

On the subject of our values: If we all think it's a positive, then obviously it IS a positive.
Lulz, you can be wrong, that's totally a possibility.

Facts don't care about your feelings Denmark.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it good.

Note how BjornP cherry picks one sentence he thinks he can make hay with, while ignoring the rest of the argument, and he still got owned. Sad.
Who are you talking to? Anyway, the reason I don’t see a reason to respond to the rest of your post is that there was nothing to respond to that won't simply be me repeating myself.

As for "facts don't care about feelings"? You were not talking facts in the post I replied to, you were talking about and I replied to your talk of positives. You like what you like. It would be meaningless for me to reply to you saying: "I like Catholic school girl uniforms" with a "Well, that's what you like but what are the facts, hmmmm? ".
You said you like the Danish welfare state, my reply is that isn't based on actual effectiveness, or a raise in the standard of living, and instead on feelz.

I don't care if you just want to talk about feelz being all that matters, that shit don't fly around here Denmark.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by BjornP » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:20 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:57 am
BjornP wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:52 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:10 am
Lulz, you can be wrong, that's totally a possibility.

Facts don't care about your feelings Denmark.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it good.

Note how BjornP cherry picks one sentence he thinks he can make hay with, while ignoring the rest of the argument, and he still got owned. Sad.
Who are you talking to? Anyway, the reason I don’t see a reason to respond to the rest of your post is that there was nothing to respond to that won't simply be me repeating myself.

As for "facts don't care about feelings"? You were not talking facts in the post I replied to, you were talking about and I replied to your talk of positives. You like what you like. It would be meaningless for me to reply to you saying: "I like Catholic school girl uniforms" with a "Well, that's what you like but what are the facts, hmmmm? ".
You said you like the Danish welfare state, my reply is that isn't based on actual effectiveness, or a raise in the standard of living, and instead on feelz.

I don't care if you just want to talk about feelz being all that matters, that shit don't fly around here Denmark.
No one is talking "feelz". Your religion matters to you, right? That a fact or not? Similarly our values matter to us. Fact.

But, if you want to talk facts too, let's:

What are your parameters for "effectiveness"? What time period and what income group(s) are we working with to judge a rise in standard of living? I'll reply to that when I get off this bus from work.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by StCapps » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:25 am

BjornP wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:20 am
StCapps wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:57 am
BjornP wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:52 am


Who are you talking to? Anyway, the reason I don’t see a reason to respond to the rest of your post is that there was nothing to respond to that won't simply be me repeating myself.

As for "facts don't care about feelings"? You were not talking facts in the post I replied to, you were talking about and I replied to your talk of positives. You like what you like. It would be meaningless for me to reply to you saying: "I like Catholic school girl uniforms" with a "Well, that's what you like but what are the facts, hmmmm? ".
You said you like the Danish welfare state, my reply is that isn't based on actual effectiveness, or a raise in the standard of living, and instead on feelz.

I don't care if you just want to talk about feelz being all that matters, that shit don't fly around here Denmark.
No one is talking "feelz". Your religion matters to you, right? That a fact or not? Similarly our values matter to us. Fact.

But, if you want to talk facts too, let's:

What are your parameters for "effectiveness"? What time period and what income group(s) are we working with to judge a rise in standard of living? I'll reply to that when I get off this bus from work.
It ain't a value, it's government policy, and a government policy that you are cloaking in "values" to avoid legitimate criticism.

The groups to compare are Danish Americans to Danes in Denmark, Danes in America do better than Danes in Denmark.

Denmark has more to learn from America than America has to learn from Denmark. Hiding behind Danish values to defend bad government policy is just a terrible argument, step your game up Denmark.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by BjornP » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:51 am

StCapps wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:25 am
It ain't a value, it's government policy, and a government policy that you are cloaking in "values" to avoid legitimate criticism.
And first of all, you'd know that... how? Know alot about Denmark? I can reply "No" for you on that. Second of all, your reasoning is half-assed and illogical. Is the US constitution, their Bill of Rights, and all the legislation that guarentee American liberties just the will of the government? Meaning liberty is actually a government policy? :think: Do Americans not have any values about liberty for themselves? Do they not vote for politicians who they think share those values? Or how about in Canada? Do the Canadian people have no values of their own, and do those values not inform what sort of politicians you vote for? Do only North American politicians have, hold, express and actively spread their values?

Thirdly, your specific guesswork about Denmark is ignorant, unfounded guesswork, because:
https://vbn.aau.dk/ws/portalfiles/porta ... e_2008.pdf


The groups to compare are Danish Americans to Danes in Denmark, Danes in America do better than Danes in Denmark.

Denmark has more to learn from America than America has to learn from Denmark. Hiding behind Danish values to defend bad government policy is just a terrible argument, step your game up Denmark.
"Danes in America" aren't Danes unless they speak Danish, and are part of our culture on our land. Otherwise, they're just Americans with some Danish ancestry. I know that's how North Americans like to think of their "ethnicities", but "Danes" that don't even speak the language aren't Danes to actual Danes. That's a side-point, though.

I'm neither interested in the US "learning" anything from us, nor the other way around. If so-called "Danish"-Americans make more money, have lower average unemployment and whatever else, if they have a high standard of living that's great... got nothing to do with Denmark or the point I'm making, though. There are Danes who have a higher standard of living than the US average, and there are those who are lower. This ain't about equality of outcome, but equality of opportunity. And Danes are more content with how things are here than Americans are in the US and even Canada.

But I guess that's because their liberty is really US government policy and they don't really have any values about liberty, at all. In fact, they all probably want a monarchy. :whistle: After all, nobody knows. An ancient eastern style monarchy. Where they bow and scrape veeeeery low to appease His Most Beneficient High Terrificness of the Empire of America and offer up their guns to him to turn it into a giant statue of their new gun-grabbing, transgender, feminist, tea-drinking and tofu-eating, God-Emperor. :pray:
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:54 am

When you are talking about third and fourth generation Danish Americans, they do better because odds are their ancestors mated with Saxon Americans and they inherited the higher IQ.

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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:56 am

I've known some big ol Danes in my time. That high Midwestern corn fed stock.

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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by BjornP » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:27 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:54 am
When you are talking about third and fourth generation Danish Americans, they do better because odds are their ancestors mated with Saxon Americans and they inherited the higher IQ.
Oh, those Saxons may have higher IQ, but they also genetically predisposed towards submitting themselves to foreign rule. Danes, Normans, and Franks in mainland Europe. But hey, there's great value in knowing your place. The Romans didn't just own dumb, working mule slaves, they had brilliant slaves. I'm sure loads of them were those genetically subservient Saxons. I hear one of them even invented peanut butter.

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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:35 am

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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:07 pm

Capps is talking about values now is he?
This from the boy who thinks that you should vote for whoever tells the best lies.
I don't think he's any expert on values.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:46 pm

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