Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

[DrYouth]

First time I've seen this thread...
So I'll give it a shot.

I'm liberal because I believe in individual rights not only collective rights.
I'm not conservative because traditional values don't have much purchase with me.
I'm not religious... I'm not really tribal in any significant way.
I'm not whole heartedly progressive because I believe in individual rights... and progressivism is too weak on this front in its current iteration of progressivism.
I do believe in making collective efforts to combat climate change though... and so on this issue I have some progressive inclinations.. but I worry that there is a segment too eager to trample on individual rights and this must be guarded against.
I also believe in a certain collective commitments to care for the ill and those who have suffered from disruptions in the economy... but I am leery of long term hostile dependence and believe this needs to be guarded against.

[brewster]

lol

Liberals were authoritarians from day one.

So were all the Liberals who founded this country Authoritarians?

First time I've seem this thread...
So I'll give it a shot.

I'm liberal because I believe in individual rights not only collective rights.
I'm not conservative because traditional values don't have much purchase with me.
I'm not religious... I'm not really tribal in any significant way.
I'm not whole heartedly progressive because I believe in individual rights... and progressivism is too weak on this front in its current iteration of progressivism.
I do believe in making collective efforts to combat climate change though... and so on this issue I have some progressive inclinations.. but I worry that there is a segment too eager to trample on individual rights and this must be guarded against.
I also believe in a certain collective commitments to care for the ill and those who have suffered from disruptions in the economy... but I am leery of long term hostile dependence and believe this needs to be guarded against.

You sound like one of my fellow moderate Democrats that the right keeps telling us are extinct.

[DrYouth]

You sound like one of my fellow moderate Democrats that the right keeps telling us are extinct.

Nice to meet you...

Truth be told... it is thanks to this forum that I stopped drinking the "full potency" left wing Kool aid.

Now I am considered right wing by the left and left wing by the right.

Thanks for that.

[Montegriffo]

First time I've seen this thread...
So I'll give it a shot.

I'm liberal because I believe in individual rights not only collective rights.
I'm not conservative because traditional values don't have much purchase with me.
I'm not religious... I'm not really tribal in any significant way.
I'm not whole heartedly progressive because I believe in individual rights... and progressivism is too weak on this front in its current iteration of progressivism.
I do believe in making collective efforts to combat climate change though... and so on this issue I have some progressive inclinations.. but I worry that there is a segment too eager to trample on individual rights and this must be guarded against.
I also believe in a certain collective commitments to care for the ill and those who have suffered from disruptions in the economy... but I am leery of long term hostile dependence and believe this needs to be guarded against.

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Hey at least you've remained consistent even if the old memory is going.

[DrYouth]

Hey at least you've remained consistent even if the old memory is going.

LOL

Your memory is sharp as a tack it seems...

Seems like ages ago I wrote that... even though it was just over a year ago.

[Montegriffo]

Hey at least you've remained consistent even if the old memory is going.

LOL

Your memory is sharp as a tack it seems...

Seems like ages ago I wrote that... even though it was just over a year ago.

Like an elephant...


...thick-skinned, grey and with a massive trunk.

[Speaker to Animals]

lol

Liberals were authoritarians from day one.

So were all the Liberals who founded this country Authoritarians?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays'_Rebellion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

Would appear so.

[brewster]

You sound like one of my fellow moderate Democrats that the right keeps telling us are extinct.

Nice to meet you...

Truth be told... it is thanks to this forum that I stopped drinking the "full potency" left wing Kool aid.

Now I am considered right wing by the left and left wing by the right.

Thanks for that.

I was never all in on the Left, but it took finding myself getting beaten up in a left leaning forum for me to realize how fucked up and intolerant they were of anyone not fully aligned with them, same as the far right. Both sides demonize anyone who dares to be Moderate.

[brewster]

lol

Liberals were authoritarians from day one.

So were all the Liberals who founded this country Authoritarians?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays'_Rebellion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

Would appear so.

The Alien and Sedition Acts were a huge mistake in judgement on Adams part, but the others were a central Democratically elected government exercising it's authority, which is not the same thing as authoritarian government.

[Montegriffo]

You sound like one of my fellow moderate Democrats that the right keeps telling us are extinct.

Nice to meet you...

Truth be told... it is thanks to this forum that I stopped drinking the "full potency" left wing Kool aid.

Now I am considered right wing by the left and left wing by the right.

Thanks for that.

I was never all in on the Left, but it took finding myself getting beaten up in a left leaning forum for me to realize how fucked up and intolerant they were of anyone not fully aligned with them, same as the far right. Both sides demonize anyone who dares to be Moderate.

Yep, hence the accusations of being a partisan hack bitch. Ironically, from the biggest partisan hack on the forum.