MHF Democrat Primary Poll

[brewster]

True, but when doesn't he look like a bafoon? That's kind of his thing, I think folks are used to it at this point, like with Biden and his gaffes.

Or Trump and his......... everything. The bar may be permanently lowered. When Trump can be elected after bragging about grabbing women by the pussy and a lifetime of grifting and habitual lying, will people really care about Warren's heritage issue or Biden's gaffes?

[Fife]

It really is astonishing how badly Hillary sucked.

[brewster]

It really is astonishing how badly Hillary sucked.

That belongs in the History forum doncha think? Why still obsess over her? She failed, move on. Its amazing people still rant about her. When Obama took office they could have investigated the fuck out of the GWB administration, but they moved on, there was 2 wars and a economic meltdown to deal with. She was never even president and you still can't let go.

[Montegriffo]

It really is astonishing how badly Hillary sucked.

That belongs in the History forum doncha think? Why still obsess over her? She failed, move on. Its amazing people still rant about her. When Obama took office they could have investigated the fuck out of the GWB administration, but they moved on, there was 2 wars and a economic meltdown to deal with. She was never even president and you still can't let go.

One might suggest that it's all they have. Trump's only redeeming quality being he is not Hillary.
It's not going to be a winning strategy in 2020.

[Fife]

"They"

:goteam: :drunk:

[brewster]

One might suggest that it's all they have. Trump's only redeeming quality being he is not Hillary.
It's not going to be a winning strategy in 2020.

I disagree. His main asset for them is simply the label R, that he's willing to pander to all the tradition GOP bullshit including stuff he never really gave a crap about like guns and abortion. This is why the "Never Trumpers" folded and moderate Republicans held their nose and voted for him. For me it's opposite, any D will bring grownups back to DC to replace the pillagers trying to tear down the government and sell it to the highest bidder.

[Montegriffo]

"They"

:goteam: :drunk:

''They'' being those unable to stop themselves making the comparison.

[Montegriffo]

One might suggest that it's all they have. Trump's only redeeming quality being he is not Hillary.
It's not going to be a winning strategy in 2020.

I disagree. His main asset for them is simply the label R, that he's willing to pander to all the tradition GOP bullshit including stuff he never really gave a crap about like guns and abortion. This is why the "Never Trumpers" folded and moderate Republicans held their nose and voted for him. For me it's opposite, any D will bring grownups back to DC to replace the pillagers trying to tear down the government and sell it to the highest bidder.

If I were eligible to vote I couldn't have supported either of them.
Same reason I have never voted for the Tories or Labour.
Pragmatism over idealism.
The Liberal Democrats are the most likely to get my vote next time around.

[Fife]

"They"

:goteam: :drunk:

''They'' being those unable to stop themselves making the comparison.

O RLY?

[brewster]

If I were eligible to vote I couldn't have supported either of them.
Same reason I have never voted for the Tories or Labour.
Pragmatism over idealism.
The Liberal Democrats are the most likely to get my vote next time around.

Don't you mean the other way around? At least there your vote for a minority party might accomplish something. Here it's thrown away til we get ranked voting. I've rarely cast a vote without holding my nose, that's just the way it is. But to me there was never a question of supporting any D over any R because of the entire system of govt they represent, and who they will bring to DC and appoint to the various benches, especially SCOTUS. No matter what else Hillary did, I'd have been satisfied with her SCOTUS choices because that's the D brand. The R brand is appointing foxes to watch the henhouses, putting people in charge of Departments like EPA, IRS or SEC that don't believe in the agency's mission. I vote against R as much as for a D.