Meanwhile in America

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:43 pm
pineapple ferments weird. Easy to get wild yeast and nasty product.
I imagine it is very sweet. Might benefit from the addition of ginger or chillies to take away some of the sweetness.
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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:37 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:43 pm
pineapple ferments weird. Easy to get wild yeast and nasty product.
I imagine it is very sweet. Might benefit from the addition of ginger or chillies to take away some of the sweetness.
Sweetness depends more on yeast and whether you backsweeten it.

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by C-Mag » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:42 pm

Monte your telling me that pineapple goes with mozzarella
PLATA O PLOMO


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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:47 pm

Sweet and sour baby. I confess I like Canadian bacon and pineapple. Pls no bully

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:08 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:42 pm
Monte your telling me that pineapple goes with mozzarella
Better with a decent cheese like cheddar.

Look, you fuckers pour maple syrup on meat you ain't got no right to complain about cheese and pineapple.
Marshmallow and potatoes, what the fuck is that about?
Btw, pumpkins are for soup not desserts.
You are happy enough to put sweet and acidic pickles with cheese on a burger how is that any different from pineapple on a pizza?
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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:29 am

Mint jelly with lamb.
Cranberries with turkey.
Duck with orange.
Ketchup with everything.
Cheese and tomato.
Gammon and pineapple.

Sweet and savoury is a well established food combination.
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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:42 am

We have an old proverb here.

"An apple pie without the cheese
is like a kiss without the squeeze"
“An apple pie without the cheese is like a kiss without the squeeze”

"An apple pie without the cheese is like a kiss without the squeeze” is cited in print from at least 1882. Both Yorkshire (where apple pie with cheese is a traditional dessert) and Sussex claim the origin of the saying, but the 1882 citation (that mentions Yorkshire) attributes the saying to “an American lady.”

An 1889 newspaper account provides a definite name: “The real author of the remark was Park Benjamin.” Park Benjamin, Sr. (1809-1864) was a New York City author and publisher of The Evening Tattler and The New World. It is possible that the saying first appeared in one of these publications.


Wikipedia: Park Benjamin, Sr.
Park Benjamin, Sr. (1809–1864), was well known in his time, as an American poet, journalist, editor and founder of several newspapers.

Biography
He was born in British Guiana, August 14, 1809, but was early sent to New England, and graduated from Trinity College, Hartford, Conn. He practiced law in Boston, but abandoned it for editorial work there and later in New York.

On July 8, 1839, he joined with Rufus Wilmot Griswold to produce The Evening Tattler, a journal which promised “the sublimest songs of the great poets–the eloquence of the most renowned orators–the heart-entrancing legends of love and chivalry–the laughter-loving jests of all lands”. In addition to fiction and poetry, it also published foreign news, local gossip, jokes, and New York police reports. In 1840 Benjamin helped to found The New World and after other brief editorial ventures became a lecturer, public reader, and periodical writer. He was sued for libel by James Fenimore Cooper, and was on personal terms with Oliver Wendell Holmes, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Nathaniel Hawthorne and Edgar Allan Poe.

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Proverbs: An apple-pie without some cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze
. Let me advise you to take a bit of cheese with it. They have a good proverb, these folks: ‘Apple pie without the cheese, is like the kiss without a squeeze.’
[1929 C. Brooks Seven Hells v. 63]
. There was an old English rhyme popular about 1750 that went: An apple-pie without some cheese Is like a kiss without a squeeze.
[1989 Courier-Journal (Louisville, KY) 2 July 4M]
. ‘Apple cake without cheese,’ they used to say in Yorkshire, ‘is like a kiss without a squeeze.’
[2002 Spectator 21 Sept. 61]
https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/ne ... he_squeeze

Time to update it.
pineapple pizza without the cheese
is like a mouthful on your knees
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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:27 am

Know your history...

Apple pie is not an American invention. In the 14th century, farmers in England began wrapping apples into inedible containers known as “coffins,” a pie prototype. Only in 1697 did the concept reach the United States—through European immigrants.

But the USA has laid claim to the iconic dessert, a process that was crystalized when a 1902 New York Times article lambasted an English writer for complaining that eating apple pie more than two times per week was excessive:

[Twice a week] is utterly insufficient, as anyone who knows the secret of our strength as a nation and the foundation of our industrial supremacy must admit. Pie is the American synonym of prosperity, and its varying contents the calendar of changing seasons. Pie is the food of the heroic. No pie-eating people can be permanently vanquished.

But even in the United States, apple pie has its regional variants—and, inevitably, detractors of those variants.
Perhaps the biggest controversy? Cheese.

This is going to completely shock a number of apple pie fans and elicit an “of course” from a whole slew of others, but: a lot of people put cheese, specifically a sharp cheddar, on their apple pies.The tradition has silently polarized the nation, with some, like author John T. Edge, confessing, “at lunch or dinner I thought a wedge of pie was naked if it wasn’t crowned with a preternaturally orange slice of cheddar.” The poet Eugene Field (1850-1895) once wrote, “But I, when I undress me / Each night, upon my knees / Will ask the Lord to bless me / With apple pie and cheese.” There is even a saying, popular in many circles: “An apple pie without the cheese is like a kiss without the squeeze.”
There are many ways to prepare it: some people bake cheese into the pie crust, some slip it into the apple filling, some melt it on top of the pie, and others leave it on the side of the plate. Though in the United States, cheddar is the favorite, many types of cheese can be used. Recipes may call for Wensleydale, Roquefort, gouda, parmesan, or Gruyère. The ABC show Pushing Daisies featured an iconic scene in which Ned, owner of a restaurant called The Pie Hole, prepares an apple pie—with Gruyère in its crust—for his girlfriend’s aunts.

Though fans of apple pie with cheese exist everywhere, they seem to be concentrated in the American Midwest, New England, and parts of Canada and Britain. Vermont even has a 1999 law on the books requiring that proprietors of apple pie make a “good faith effort” to serve it with ice cream, cold milk, or “a slice of cheddar cheese weighing a minimum of 1/2 ounce.” In some circles, apple pie with cheese is tradition.
The idea appears to have originated in England, where all sorts of fillings were added to pies. At some point, the 17th-century trend of adding dairy-based sauces to pies morphed into a tradition of topping them with cheese. For instance, in Yorkshire, apple pie was served with Wensleydale, which is likely how the phrase “an apple pie without the cheese is like a kiss without the squeeze” began. (Though it is in dispute whether the phrase originated in the United States or England, it caught on in both places in the 19th century, suggesting a kind of cultural collaboration between the two.)

According to The Mystic Seaport Cookbook: 350 Years of New England Cooking, New England settlers brought the idea behind these Yorkshire pies with them, but instead of Wensleydale, they began using cheddar.

Why cheese? At the time, apple pies were quite bland: prior to the creation of the Red Delicious apple in the late 19th century, few apples tasted sweet. Cheese offered a readily available supplement. After all, in an era before the ubiquity of freezers, the most popular pie topping today—ice cream—was out of the question.

Places in the United States with heavy concentrations of dairy farms therefore became centers of the cheese-on-apple-pie craze. These included New England, Pennsylvania, and especially the Midwest—largely the regions where cheddar cheese apple pie is popular today.

Regions that pioneered pie a la mode, meanwhile, largely lost the trend: New York City, for instance, has served the dish since the 1890s, and today generally falls into the “pie with ice cream” camp.

During the 20th century, ice cream gradually usurped cheese as the most popular pie topping in the United States at large. But the cheese-on-pie love has endured. So beware: Whether you serve your apple pie with cheese or without it, you might get some funny looks.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/cheese-apple-pie
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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by StCapps » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:51 am

Montegriffo will fight and die for right to eat pineapple on pizza, freedom of choice.

As for your constitution right to keep and bear arms not being infringed, Monte says fuck your freedom of choice.
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*yip*

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Re: Meanwhile in America

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:59 am

StCapps wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:51 am
Montegriffo will fight and die for right to eat pineapple on pizza, freedom of choice.

As for your constitution right to keep and bear arms not being infringed, Monte says fuck your freedom of choice.
:lol:
My right to pineapple pizza stops at the point where I slam it into your face.
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