Speaker to Animals wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:26 pm
Warren is the latest star in the media's propaganda narrative.
Whether that narrative translates to an election outcome remains to be seen. I think she is their best bet, but I think Bernie is just as strong if not more so.
I just want to see Tulsi in a debate take on Warren
WASHINGTON (AP) — Struggling Democratic presidential candidates are facing the bad news that they are not among the 10 who have qualified for the next debate, a predicament that is likely to spell doom for their campaigns.
Hours ahead of a midnight Wednesday deadline to qualify, New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand announced she was dropping out of the race after spending at least $4 million on advertising in recent months to qualify.
Billionaire climate change activist Tom Steyer, Montana Gov. Steve Bullock and self-help guru Marianne Williamson were also among those missing September’s debate, as were Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard and a handful of others.
To appear on stage in Houston next month, they had to hit 2% in at least four approved public opinion polls while securing 130,000 unique donors . Two new polls released Wednesday affirmed that they were all below the threshold.
The question shifted from who would qualify for the following debate to who would stay in the race.
“Our rules have ended up less inclusive ... than even the Republicans,” Bullock said on MSNBC, referring to the thresholds set by the Democratic National Committee. “It is what it is.”
The 10 candidates who qualified for September’s debate are Joe Biden, Cory Booker, Pete Buttigieg, Julián Castro, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Andrew Yang.
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Speaker to Animals wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:12 pm
but Warren is weak as fuck imo. There is a very real chance somebody is going to do to her what Tulsi did to Harris.
On what though? She doesnt have a record like Harris does as a prosecutor. She doesnt have a voting record a Democrat can really attack. The pocohantus thing? No Democrat can touch that, they'll get called out as Donald Trump.
The hell she doesn't, her record is centrist and she's running as a progressive trying to outflank Bernie, they can tear down her attempt to move to the left and undercut her centrist credentials, two birds with one stone.
She's vulnerable, not sure the other Democrats will take advantage of it, especially Kid Gloves Bernie, but her chin is hanging in the air, begging to be hit.
Sorry, but being right of Stalin doesn't mean she is centrist.
In Mass, she is a joke, and in reality the only reason she is going to carry Mass is because the Democrats here are going to swallow their pride, bite their tongue and vote for her because ”Orange man bad!”
The entire Democrat party is so far left that anyone who runs left of center is going to look like a centrist, because on the left that's a pretty wide margin.
On what though? She doesnt have a record like Harris does as a prosecutor. She doesnt have a voting record a Democrat can really attack. The pocohantus thing? No Democrat can touch that, they'll get called out as Donald Trump.
The hell she doesn't, her record is centrist and she's running as a progressive trying to outflank Bernie, they can tear down her attempt to move to the left and undercut her centrist credentials, two birds with one stone.
She's vulnerable, not sure the other Democrats will take advantage of it, especially Kid Gloves Bernie, but her chin is hanging in the air, begging to be hit.
Sorry, but being right of Stalin doesn't mean she is centrist.
In Mass, she is a joke, and in reality the only reason she is going to carry Mass is because the Democrats here are going to swallow their pride, bite their tongue and vote for her because ”Orange man bad!”
The entire Democrat party is so far left that anyone who runs left of center is going to look like a centrist, because on the left that's a pretty wide margin.
You have to grade her relative to other Democrats. She is campaigning that she is as far to the left as any other Democrat, while actually being to the right of most of the field, exposing that will hurt her with both moderates and progressives. Not moderate enough for the moderates because she is pandering to the far left, and not far left enough for the far left because she just pretending to be one of them. Two birds with one stone.
StCapps wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:16 pm
The hell she doesn't, her record is centrist and she's running as a progressive trying to outflank Bernie, they can tear down her attempt to move to the left and undercut her centrist credentials, two birds with one stone.
She's vulnerable, not sure the other Democrats will take advantage of it, especially Kid Gloves Bernie, but her chin is hanging in the air, begging to be hit.
Sorry, but being right of Stalin doesn't mean she is centrist.
In Mass, she is a joke, and in reality the only reason she is going to carry Mass is because the Democrats here are going to swallow their pride, bite their tongue and vote for her because ”Orange man bad!”
The entire Democrat party is so far left that anyone who runs left of center is going to look like a centrist, because on the left that's a pretty wide margin.
You have to grade her relative to other Democrats. She is campaigning that she is as far to the left as any other Democrat, while actually being to the right of most of the field, exposing that will hurt her with both moderates and progressives. Not moderate enough for the moderates because she is pandering to far left, and not far left enough for the far left because she just pretending to be one of them. Two birds with one stone.
You confirmed what I already said, the point is that if she is still a centrist on a party that is so far left that Stalin an Mao seems conservative in comparison.
The funniest (and at the same time scariest) thing I've read all week is numerous posters on another forum claiming that none of the Democrat candidates are far-left. The furthest they go is center-left. They are serious.
PartyOf5 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:40 pm
The funniest (and at the same time scariest) thing I've read all week is numerous posters on another forum claiming that none of the Democrat candidates are far-left. The furthest they go is center-left. They are serious.
Take out Warren and the scale tips so far left it would fall off whatever surface it's on.
