South American Forest Fires - The lie within a lie.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:52 pm

Fife wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:18 am
Don't Panic: Amazon Burning Is Mostly Farms, Not Forests
While problematic deforestation is still taking place in the Amazon region, a 2018 study in Nature reported that the global tree canopy cover had increased by 865,000 square miles from 1982 to 2016. As Brazilians become wealthier, the deforestation trend in the Amazon will likely turn around toward afforestation, as it already has done many other countries.
Pretty much this. People meed to stop propagating the stupid shit like OP did. This is almost certainly another coordinated fake news blitz, and sometimes I really wonder if they propagate the retarded shit amongst boomercon circles as well to boost the media narrative by making dissent look retarded.

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Post by Ph64 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:04 pm

You'll notice pretty much every article mentions (and demonizes) Brazil/Bolsonaro.

Pure coincidence of course that this comes up as a "major panic issue", even though they've been burning their farmland for decades exactly like this, right after he was elected. It's almost like calls for... For... "Regime change" or something? :roll:

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:29 pm

They have been doing it for at least a thousand years. There used to be a civilization in that jungle that made their own biochar soil in this fashion.

The other point in that article was actually more salient: the Amazon grows really fast. The reason farmers and ranchers burn pastures and fields is to keep the jungle from retaking the land. It would not be difficult to just let the forest grow back some if the government ever wants.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:20 am

If it kills all the mosquitos and pigeons and throw in roaches, in the jungles they breed in then we can go ahead and burn it down imho
Very smart posting

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Post by The Conservative » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:39 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:29 pm
They have been doing it for at least a thousand years. There used to be a civilization in that jungle that made their own biochar soil in this fashion.

The other point in that article was actually more salient: the Amazon grows really fast. The reason farmers and ranchers burn pastures and fields is to keep the jungle from retaking the land. It would not be difficult to just let the forest grow back some if the government ever wants.
So now you are agreeing with me?
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Post by Otern » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:20 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:29 pm
The other point in that article was actually more salient: the Amazon grows really fast. The reason farmers and ranchers burn pastures and fields is to keep the jungle from retaking the land. It would not be difficult to just let the forest grow back some if the government ever wants.
Makes sense. People often think deforestation is the only problem, but uncontrolled reforestation can be just as devastating. And the whole debacle about "we can lose 20% of our oxygen if trees are cut down" is bullshit too. Crops produce oxygen too, and they're better at it than forests.

The only issue I would worry about in Brazil's case, is if there's any truth to how much rain would disappear when the forest is cut down. The Amazon turning into a desert would be awful.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:34 am

The Conservative wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:39 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:29 pm
They have been doing it for at least a thousand years. There used to be a civilization in that jungle that made their own biochar soil in this fashion.

The other point in that article was actually more salient: the Amazon grows really fast. The reason farmers and ranchers burn pastures and fields is to keep the jungle from retaking the land. It would not be difficult to just let the forest grow back some if the government ever wants.
So now you are agreeing with me?
Of course not. Your OP was fallacious nonsense.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:37 am

Otern wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:20 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:29 pm
The other point in that article was actually more salient: the Amazon grows really fast. The reason farmers and ranchers burn pastures and fields is to keep the jungle from retaking the land. It would not be difficult to just let the forest grow back some if the government ever wants.
Makes sense. People often think deforestation is the only problem, but uncontrolled reforestation can be just as devastating. And the whole debacle about "we can lose 20% of our oxygen if trees are cut down" is bullshit too. Crops produce oxygen too, and they're better at it than forests.

The only issue I would worry about in Brazil's case, is if there's any truth to how much rain would disappear when the forest is cut down. The Amazon turning into a desert would be awful.
What I question here is whether they are indeed burning down significantly more actual rain forest. For all we know, it might not even be a particularly heavy episode of burning pastures and fields. I am extremely cynical of these sudden media flaps.

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Post by Fife » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:42 am

Those crazy Brazilians elected some dope who isn't to the left of Hugo Chávez, so now the fires are suddenly the biggest Omigod thing going in the destruction of the planet fake news opera.

I, for one, look forward to the entire Florida peninsula becoming America's Think Locally, Act Locally Christmas Tree Farm and Orange Grove. We'll send all of our ebul CO2 down to the swamp and get fresh oxygen, Yuletide joy, and Anita Bryant Citrus Wholesomeness in return. Plus the yankees can stay up north and in Kalifornia where they belong. Big win.

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Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:28 am

:lol:
It must be pretty bad out there when you've run out of new and old ideas for Russian hoaxes and you're down to racism and nationalism ruins the rain forest.
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