Poor bastards starved themselves on potatoes and now they can't even afford sanitation services.Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:07 pmNorthern Ireland Beaches 'Most Littered'
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environ ... -1.1392766
It was probably them damn Black Irish bastards what did it though.
Flywheel energy storage is an awful way of storing large amounts of energy though. It's great at stabilizing the energy supply in a grid, but it's really comparable to batteries as a method of storing energy. Can't store large amounts, over a long period of time.brewster wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:27 pmCongrats on actually conceding to facts, most guys here simply go into endless denial/fake news mode. Like I said, the issue is efficiency of mechanical systems, but that just economics not feasibility. At some point less efficiently stored cheap power is cheaper than fossil generated.
I saw something not long ago about a plan to use a massive carbon fiber flywheel running up to 15k rpm on a maglev bearing in vacuum for storage. Who knows? We're a fucking clever species when we're not being stupid and shortsighted.
Look at the wiki page on Methanol Economy for a mind blown on options. You can use the excess electricity to rectify carbon out of the air and make liquid auto and aircraft fuels.
Obviously no. They're the ones making the problem worse. For example, they're the ones pushing for Norway selling out its hydropower, so Europe can keep up its excessive energy use. They're also the ones refusing a natural drop in population due to birth rates, and keep the population rising through immigration. They're going for eternal economical growth, which is unsustainable, as growth keeps driving up the use of resources and energy.
Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:26 amIt's not really a problem. The overpopulation myth is a myth that is created to explain away the incredibly fucked up effects of mass migration from the third world into the western world.
The pollution problem is largely racial and you are not likely to convince Africans and Asians to stop shitting up the Earth with garbage and other pollutants. They don't care.
The energy problem seems almost intractable. We can mitigate peak oil, but I doubt any magic technology will come along to provide the energy efficiency we depend upon today. Which means the large cities and their globalists culture have shelf lives measured in decades.
It has always been considered bad form to point out that the German Nazis had a conscious environmental quotient to their ideology, but what’s this? The Washington Post noted yesterday that two of the recent mass shooters—the New Zealand shooter last year and the El Paso shooter two weeks ago—embraced environmental themes, fusing them together in fact with anti-immigration views. The Post is shocked and befuddled at this seeming anomaly (though to be fair, the Post notes as briefly as possible: “Ecofascism has deep roots. There is a strong element of it in the Nazi emphasis on “blood and soil,” and the fatherland. . .) But this is only anomalous to clueless liberals, who suffer cognitive impairment when it comes to imagining the connection between the anti-natalism of the “population bomb” mentality and seeing immigration as a driver of population growth:
The statements that authorities think the men posted online share another obsession: overpopulation and environmental degradation. . .
The alleged Christchurch shooter, who is charged with targeting Muslims and killing 51 people in March, declared himself an “eco-fascist” and railed about immigrants’ birthrates. The statement linked to the El Paso shooter, who is charged with killing 22 people in a shopping area this month, bemoans water pollution, plastic waste and an American consumer culture that is “creating a massive burden for future generations.” . . .
Many white supremacists have latched onto environmental themes, drawing connections between the protection of nature and racial exclusion. . .
The alleged El Paso shooter’s document is full of existential despair: “My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist.”
I think you need to adjust your concept of growth. Not all forms of growth uses extra resources. It's often quite the opposite. Most growth comes from achieving the same result by while using less resources and labour. Increased productivity. Recycling also adds to growth as does less waste.Otern wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:33 amObviously no. They're the ones making the problem worse. For example, they're the ones pushing for Norway selling out its hydropower, so Europe can keep up its excessive energy use. They're also the ones refusing a natural drop in population due to birth rates, and keep the population rising through immigration. They're going for eternal economical growth, which is unsustainable, as growth keeps driving up the use of resources and energy.
Brussels is run by free market liberal globalists, which will not help the issue at all. They have an uneducated faith in technology as the savior of humanity. Engineers don't run this shit. Any engineer could tell them how stupid it is to think battery powered commercial airliners could replace current airfleets in ten years. But the technical expertise of centralized political institutions is severely lacking.
It's this central planning that makes it possible for Germany to shut down its nuclear reactors, as they can buy cheap hydropower from Norway instead, putting a further strain on the energy supply. If Germany had to supply its own energy, they'd stick with nuclear power, and all of Europe would be better off.
You're talking about more efficient use of resources, contributing to increased economical growth. But there's a limit to efficiency. There's only two times, over the last 200 years the global energy usage decreased. The 1979 oil crisis, and the 2007 recession. And it both cases, it took less than two years to be on the same level, and increasing rapidly again.Hastur wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:39 amI think you need to adjust your concept of growth. Not all forms of growth uses extra resources. It's often quite the opposite. Most growth comes from achieving the same result by while using less resources and labour. Increased productivity. Recycling also adds to growth as does less waste.
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