Global overpopulation

[TheReal_ND]

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Shitty Brazilians are letting the rainforest burn down. Just imagine, it's going to be basically gone in our lifetime.

[Zlaxer]

Brazil is a failed state - the sun makes their brains go to mush - people (collectively) have no sense of civic duty and are just out for themselves - no reason Brazil shouldn’t be like Chili except for culture. Tell me Capps - why is Chili decent and Brazil the 6th circle of Hell?

[brewster]

The problem with wind power is energy storage.

Yes it is, but the problem isn't storing energy, we can do that many ways, it's storing and retrieving it with acceptable efficiency losses. Now, looked at that way, the cheaper the energy the more acceptable losses are, right? You talk of hydro, but you don't need to actually consume the water for a hydro energy storage facility. One of the places I used to kayak a lot, the Deerfield River in MA, had a series of dams set up to store excess power from the Yankee Rowe nuke. Pump it up, then run it down for peaking. You have losses, but they're acceptable in the framework of it being excess from a nuke. These facilities are being discussed, as are pressurizing caverns, flywheels, and numerous other non chemical means of storage. All of them become far more economically feasible as the price of wind and solar drops.

[Zlaxer]

Hey Capps - the Irish were so fucking poor they couldn't feed themselves - yet Ireland is not a wasteland - how come?

[Zlaxer]

The problem with wind power is energy storage.

Yes it is, but the problem isn't storing energy, we can do that many ways, it's storing and retrieving it with acceptable efficiency losses. Now, looked at that way, the cheaper the energy the more acceptable losses are, right? You talk of hydro, but you don't need to actually consume the water for a hydro energy storage facility. One of the places I used to kayak a lot, the Deerfield River in MA, had a series of dams set up to store excess power from the Yankee Rowe nuke. Pump it up, then run it down for peaking. You have losses, but they're acceptable in the framework of it being excess from a nuke. These facilities are being discussed, as are pressurizing caverns, flywheels, and numerous other non chemical means of storage. All of them become far more economically feasible as the price of wind and solar drops.

You're chasing phantoms - fusion will be here long before a sufficiently high energy density storage system comes along....

[brewster]

You're chasing phantoms - fusion will be here long before a sufficiently high energy density storage system comes along....

The $3 Billion Planto Turn Hoover Dam Into a Giant Battery
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... nergy.html

The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, an original operator of the dam when it was erected in the 1930s, wants to equip it with a $3 billion pipeline and a pump station powered by solar and wind energy. The pump station, downstream, would help regulate the water flow through the dam’s generators, sending water back to the top to help manage electricity at times of peak demand.

[Zlaxer]

You're chasing phantoms - fusion will be here long before a sufficiently high energy density storage system comes along....

The $3 Billion Planto Turn Hoover Dam Into a Giant Battery
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... nergy.html

The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, an original operator of the dam when it was erected in the 1930s, wants to equip it with a $3 billion pipeline and a pump station powered by solar and wind energy. The pump station, downstream, would help regulate the water flow through the dam’s generators, sending water back to the top to help manage electricity at times of peak demand.

Well fuck

I had wondered why no one had thought of mechanical batteries....I had thought about making one for home use using weights and gears....like a grandfather clock...only with much more energy storage....
They're supper wasteful, but I guess it doesn't matter when storage overshadows generation....

[brewster]

Well fuck

Congrats on actually conceding to facts, most guys here simply go into endless denial/fake news mode. Like I said, the issue is efficiency of mechanical systems, but that just economics not feasibility. At some point less efficiently stored cheap power is cheaper than fossil generated.

I saw something not long ago about a plan to use a massive carbon fiber flywheel running up to 15k rpm on a maglev bearing in vacuum for storage. Who knows? We're a fucking clever species when we're not being stupid and shortsighted.

Look at the wiki page on Methanol Economy for a mind blown on options. You can use the excess electricity to rectify carbon out of the air and make liquid auto and aircraft fuels.

[StCapps]

Brazil is a failed state - the sun makes their brains go to mush - people (collectively) have no sense of civic duty and are just out for themselves - no reason Brazil shouldn’t be like Chili except for culture. Tell me Capps - why is Chili decent and Brazil the 6th circle of Hell?

Free market capitalism.

Hey Capps - the Irish were so fucking poor they couldn't feed themselves - yet Ireland is not a wasteland - how come?

Free market capitalism.

[Speaker to Animals]

lol

What a cuck.